>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rich Salz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 29 November 2001 12:12
>To: Owen Boyle
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Apache SSL Private Keys
>
>
>The difference is that with a passphrase the rooter must be an active
>attacker with an active compromise on your machine, as opposed to a
>non-pass phrase which can be a passive attacker trying to 
>snarf a single
>file.  More than just warm fuzzy; the first is just downright harder.
>       /r$
>-- 
>Zolera Systems, Securing web services (XML, SOAP, Signatures,
>Encryption)
>http://www.zolera.com

I think your point is a moot one. After all, everyone stores their private
keys as mode 0400 owned by user and group root, right? (At least, you
should). That is stored in a directory that only root has access to. If you
have any exploits on your machine that can retrieve a file like that, (eg
file giveaways) you've got bigger problems than a pass-phrase could ever
solve.

Allegedly NCipher make a crypto card that can store the keys on it, which is
supposedly secure, but since they haven't sent me a test one I don't know
how secure that is. Physically it's highly secure, being coated in a thick
resin that destroys the circuit board if you remove it.

- 
John Airey
Internet systems support officer, ITCSD, Royal National Institute for the
Blind,
Bakewell Road, Peterborough PE2 6XU,
Tel.: +44 (0) 1733 375299 Fax: +44 (0) 1733 370848 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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