Hi Justin,

> I implemented the suggested configuration to ix buggy IE SSL
> implementations, which includes disableing keepalive and it seems to have
> made this problem go away (the crashing of apache under SSL) even though it
> is not what the config changes were intended to fix.  I did some
> troubleshoting and the crashing seemed specifically related to keepalive,
> probably in conjunction with multiple request over a single connection (1.1)

I tried keepalive on/off with no effect.
Also its no pure problem of IE5/5.5/6.0 - 
the crashes also occur with netscape4.78 or netscape 6.2

Johannes

> 
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johannes Bertscheit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 9:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: MODSSL: WIN32-apache 1.3.x (windows NT) problem of serving
> concurrent https requests
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Does anyone know something about the following
> WIN32-apache-modssl and/or WIN32-apache problem as described below?
> 
> In short:
> It seems that any WIN32-apache (I tried) has this problem:
> They cannot display pages (I need mainly https:// but also tried
> http://) with many images in a RELIABLE  manner.
> 
> That means if you SHIFT-RELOAD the page several times
> (10x, 20x, 50x.), the apache process crashes once in a while and is
> restarted after some time.
> In this time the server is not accessable and images remain empty or the
> page itself says "unable to load page"
> I had this effekt on the following apache servers:
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.6
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.9
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.20
> - WIN32-apache-mod_ssl 1.3.22
> - IBM http server 1.3.19 - based on apache 1.3.20 (without mod_ssl - but
> with own IBM-ssl-128)
> I also tried cygwin-based apaches:
> - cygwin apache 1.3.6 mod_ssl
> - cygwin camp 1.3.20 mod_ssl
> The cygwin-based show NOT this effect - but have other problems
> (sporadic hangs of the cygwin-apache and/or cygwin-system) which do not
> allow to use them.
> The only RELIABLE SSL-web server on windows-nt I found yet is
> "tinyssl" (also based on openssl) - it is solid as a rock - but it has
> not the functionality I need (ProxyPass, RewriteRule, mod_jserv...).
> 
> The problem is closely associated with concurrent requests
> (to load the images) to the server.
> So it is a bug in the thread/process- sychronisation of WIN32-apache
> versions and I think in the core-apache,
> because apache crashes occur also if you redirect the image loading to
> another SSL-server (with ProxyPass) and
> also if you use http:// instead of http://..
> 
> I need to get a RELIABLE apache-based mod-ssl web server for windows NT
> but havent found such a thing yet...
> 
> Do you know a RELIABLE (no hangs!, no crashes!) running
> WIN32-apache-mod-
> ssl installation anywhere?
> Is there a solution for this problem?
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> Johannes
> 
> Here is a posting to mod_ssl which describes the crashes of WIN32-apache
> 1.3.20 in more detail:
> 
>  Subject:
>        WIN32-apache 1.3.20 (windows NT) problem of serving concurrent
> https requests
>   Date:
>        Wed, 21 Nov 2001 02:20:58 +0100
>         From:
>        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Johannes Artur Bertscheit)
>      Reply-To:
>        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Organization:
>        JB Management & Consulting
>    To:
>        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    CC:
>        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>  Hi all,
> 
>  I use
>  Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-WIN32.zip
>  from your contribution area
>  (
> 
> http://www.modssl.org/contrib/Apache_1.3.20-Mod_SSL_2.8.4-OpenSSL_0.9.6a-
> WIN32.zip
> 
>  )
> 
>  when serving SSL pages under this WIN32-apache 1.3.20 under windows NT
>  e.g: html page with 20 images
>  or html-frame with 1 image
>  and I SHIFT-RELOAD these pages several times
>  (with IE5.5 or netscape4.78 dont matters)
>  (it depends on timing conditions if the crash will occur -
>  so several tries - up to 10- may be neccessary)
>  then I get the following Dr.Watson crashes:
> 
>   FAULT ->6ffa1522 8b5104           mov     edx,[ecx+0x4]
>  ds:00dfea06=????????
> 
>   FAULT ->10007587 8b0491           mov     eax,[ecx+edx*4]
>  ds:00000017=????????
> 
>  because if Apache.exe's are restarted automatically,
>  the server continues to server after some delay and maybe
>  anoher SHIFT-RELOAD may show all images/frames.
> 
>  I think its a problem of serving concurrent https requests
>  (several images / several frames).
>  Are there known problems in this area???
>  How can the problem be fixed?
>  I tried almost all configuration settings
> (e.g. SSLSessionCache on/off, nokeepalive on/off...)
> with no effect.
> 
>  Thanks in advance!
> 
>  Johannes
> 
> 
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