# from Paul LeoNerd Evans # on Sunday 31 December 2006 03:14 am: >EU::MM can't, but I believe Module::Build can. That said, the > consensus on #perl/Freenode is that the latter isn't really ready > yet, so just use the former.
Is it not ready only because the consensus says it is not ready and therefore it is not in use enough to be believed that it is ready? # from Paul LeoNerd Evans # on Sunday 31 December 2006 07:23 am: >but there isn't currently a way to make >ExtUtils::MakeMaker have build-time dependencies that don't turn into >runtime dependencies. I have in fact reported a bug/wishlist/"I'll > patch it if you think this is good" ticket on it: > > http://rt.cpan.org//Ticket/Display.html?id=24159 So, instead of using Module::Build, which has this feature, you're going to wait for it to be added to the "please kill this" installer which doesn't? http://schwern.org/~schwern/talks/MakeMaker_Is_DOOMED/slides/slide001.html Seems to me that it would be in the EU::MM maintainer's best interest to *never* support that feature. Thus, you (and others) would have motivation to use Module::Build and therefore the consensus would change from "not sure" to "works great" (and Schwern will finally get his wish of putting some concrete boots on EU::MM and waving to it as it quickly sinks into the murky depths of the Willamette.) I've been using Module::Build exclusively for at least a year now and the only trouble I've had has been from users running an old CPAN.pm (but that's only because I'm cruel enough to quit including compatibility makefiles specifically because I think it's a good idea for users to upgrade CPAN.pm once a year or so (hey, it's a free upgrade.)) I guess the best way to solve the chicken and egg problem is to make a chicken omelet. If you want a feature, just have a dependency. Same goes for whether or not to use Test::Exception. The installer will get better over time (usually with little or no effort on your part), but writing your own code or workaround to avoid a dependency means you get to maintain that forever. --Eric -- Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way to predict the future is to invent it. --Alan Kay --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com ---------------------------------------------------
