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Interesting stats.. and explanation.

Do you exempt some IPs... for instance Vircom's mail server, for which I
could see you might get 100 messages in three hours.

Also though it might not be linear, an ISP with "10" times your mail
subscriber base might have to set a threshold of "5" or "3" times the number
of e-mails from a source. before blocking.

What is your estimate based on "educated rule of thumb"?

Cary Fitch



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April 23-24, 2004, Dallas Texas
Full info: http://www.peercon.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Herrera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 12:25 PM
Subject: [Modus] specific RBL


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>
> If you've been on this list very long you know that one of my pet peeves
are
> the RBL's that are run by people who think that they are the net police.
> They do stupid things and blacklist entire networks or domains for bizarre
> reasons.  There are blacklists that will blacklist a domain just because
> they have x number of complaints about them, problem is, a lot of those
> domains are being spoofed and the spam is not originating from them.  An
rbl
> has to be careful to insure that its blacklistings are reasonable,
reliable
> and are actually blacklisting the right network and not spoofed domains
etc.
>
> One of the real great things about a dynamic blacklist is that it
blacklists
> the originating ip of the spam, regardless of the domain name or anything
> else.  And the even nicer thing is that it also dynamically releases that
ip
> from the blacklist without intervention from anyone after a set amount of
> time.  It is reasonable because a mail server will not be blacklisted
unless
> spam is actually, and currently, being sent from that server, it is
> reasonable because it will release the server from the blacklist once the
> spam run is over or keep it there if it continues.  Even if the
originating
> network were to complain, the defense is that you will stop the blacklist
> once they stop the spam.
>
> We have used it for about 8 months now and I can attest to the accuracy
and
> effectiveness.  If you want to see the results from one of our servers
> showing the banned ip's and their release times you can view it at:
> http://icarus.access-one.com/cgi-bin/ip_ban_check.cgi.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Herrera
> Access One Online Svcs.
> http://www.access-one.com
>
> Attend Peering Conference for ISP's,
> April 23-24, 2004, Dallas Texas
> Full info: http://www.peercon.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Darryl Dunkin
> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 12:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Modus] specific RBL
>
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>
> These lists are somewhat frustrating as they are not always transient
users,
> and are created without indepth knowledge about the network they list.
More
> specifically, they list Covad DSL customers. Although Covad sells business
> packages with static IPs and subnets for the purpose of running servers,
it
> makes it rough as those ranges are listed and blocked with a bad
assumption
> about their network.
>
>
>
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