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On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 7:20 PM, Rob Yates <[email protected]> wrote:

> The nice thing about Django is that it gives you easy, declarative-style
> frameworks for doing things without a lot of work, or you get dig in and get
> your hands dirty if you need to.  At the end of the day, even the
> declarative nature of Django is just pure python so you have a lot of
> control.
>
> The Poll tutorial contains all of the building blocks that it sounds like
> you will be interested in:
>
> 1. Defining model objects to represent the data you want to collect.  If
> you're not familiar with object modeling, this is basically just defining
> the structure of the data you will be storing and how it will relate.  For
> most purposes, each model object will be a database table and each attribute
> in the model will be a column in that table.
> 2. Establishing your URL-structure.  What do you want your URLs to look
> like for search engine optimization or just plain friendliness to users'
> eyeballs.
> 3. Define your forms. For your purposes, Django may just do a lot of the
> form-handling automatically.  In my opinion, form handling (including
> synchronizing the HTML aspects of the forms with what the server-side code
> is expecting is the source of a lot of error in many web applications.
>  Django tries to reduce that error by doing a lot of the work for you.
>  Again, if you don't like Django's sane defaults, you can override where you
> need to.
> 4. Set up your views.  This is where the rubber meets the road so to speak.
>  Your views will get called whenever the user submits a request (or posts a
> form) and this is where you will ultimately collect the data submitted in
> the form and persist it to the database.
>
> Since it sounds like you have the users uploading files, you'll be
> interested to know that Django has a FileField form field (that
> automatically gets created if you defined your model as having a File as one
> of it's attributes).  This FileField gives you a lot of functionality
> including handling proper streaming of large files (so you don't run out of
> server memory).
>
> You will want to look at:
>
> Working with Forms documentation:
> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/forms/
>
> File Uploads:
> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/file-uploads/#topics-http-file-uploads
>
> FileField Model Field:
> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/models/fields/#filefield
>
> Details on File Uploads:
> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/http/file-uploads/#topics-http-file-uploads
>
> My apologies for the off-topic nature of this post.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> On 6/25/10 10:42 PM, Bradley Hintze wrote:
>
>> Does Django have a simple to follow tutorial on passing user input to
>> scripts?? I saw the tutorial on the site about making a poll but I'm
>> not interested in that. I want to be able to upload files, and get
>> input from the user.
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Rob Yates<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'm a bit biased as I'm a full-time Django developer, but your angst
>>> should be with macports and not with Django. Django is a single directory
>>> that contains no compiled code and following their fantastic documentation
>>> is really easy. Granted Django may be a bit more functionality than you need
>>> in a framework, but ease of installation and stellar documentation are two
>>> of it's strong traits.
>>>
>>> If you feel the need to use a "package manager", you really should be
>>> using easy_install or even better pip, but not macports. Assuming you're on
>>> a recent flavor of OS X, most of what you need is built-in to the o/s
>>> anyway.
>>>
>>> -Rob
>>>
>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 9:35 PM, Bradley Hintze<[email protected]>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am fairly comfortable with unix commands and security, I still have
>>>> a lot to learn though.
>>>>
>>>> I have a bad taste in my moth for Django as I installed it and
>>>> couldn't find where the files were put, and thus couldn't follow the
>>>> one and only Django tutorial. When I asked on the Django mailing list
>>>> for help I got no response. I restored my machine to a previous
>>>> back-up to get rid of all the Django 'stuff' wherever it was. If I
>>>> could get help installing it correctly I might give it a go.
>>>>
>>>> The problem that I'm seing is most these frameworks don't give you
>>>> step by step instructions on how to download and install.
>>>> How about pylons? I looked at their site and they have decent
>>>> instructions AND tutorials. Surprisingly, I have yet to come across a
>>>> tutorial outlining how to retrieve user input from a form which should
>>>> be, from my limited view, the primary function of a framework as that
>>>> is the crucial aspect of a dynamic web app. If anyone knows of a good
>>>> tutorial let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I've seen that some of these frameworks have you staat up their
>>>> own server. Why run their server and apache? Or can theses frameworks
>>>> use apache?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Damjan<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I am making an app where I pass variables and run lots of scripts. I
>>>>>> don't think a frame work can do what I am trying to do, manual control
>>>>>> is a must. Plus the framework documentation that I've seen is
>>>>>> difficult to understand. I was raised as a biochemist not a programmer
>>>>>> ;) If you can point out an easy to understand frame work I'll
>>>>>> certainty take a look.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Since you don't have much experience with Web apps or WSGI, I'd
>>>>> strongly suggest to start with some framework.
>>>>>
>>>>> Django has pretty good documentation and even if I personally don't
>>>>> use it, I think it's very good for newbies. You could also look at
>>>>> flask - it has great documentation too, but you need to know more
>>>>> about web apps with it - http://flask.pocoo.org/. It's perhaps on the
>>>>> opposite end of the spectrum of web frameworks compared to Django, but
>>>>> has good documentation too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  From your comments in this group, I would not suggest you to use plain
>>>>> WSGI. You will need to understand and know much more about http, html,
>>>>> security issues etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, if your application is not going to be heavily visited, you
>>>>> might not need mod_wsgi either. Most WSGI frameworks come with their
>>>>> own python server.
>>>>>
>>>>> And last, learn to use virtualenv and pip, and you will be able to
>>>>> pack your entire web application, including Django in a single
>>>>> directory.
>>>>>
>>>>> And lear some Unix command line interface (or shell), it will really
>>>>> make your life easier.
>>>>>
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>>>>
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