Graham,
One thing that you may want to mention is that on Debian type systems
(Ubuntu etc.) apache2 is used instead of httpd.
Also I only got a single line when running:
$ apache2 -M
apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}
As I work through the document I may post more.
~Carl
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Graham Dumpleton
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Some of those early things in your list, better off being accommodated in:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/WhereToGetHelp?tm=6#Asking_Your_Questions
>
> Although the fact the pretty well no one provides the information like
> already listed means no one probably pays attention to it.
>
> Anyway, I'll look though the rest of your comments.
>
> A whole page in itself it needed about SELinux.
>
> Will have to see if easier way to work out some of those locations of stuff.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Graham
>
> On 22 October 2010 16:19, Deron Meranda <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Graham Dumpleton
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I have started to accumulate a description of these in a special
>>> document. It can now be found at:
>>>
>>> http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/CheckingYourInstallation
>>>
>>> I'll add more as I remember them or have to tell people special checks
>>> to do. If you think of any that should go in there, let me know. Also
>>> let me know if you think stuff in there is confusing or could do with
>>> a better explanation.
>>
>> This looks to be a useful document. Here's some of my comments,
>> mostly to provide perspective for Linux installations, and especially
>> yum/rpm-based distros (Fedora, etc.)
>>
>> First, you may want to link to the classic document "How to
>> Ask Questions the Smart Way" -- your call. See
>> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>> (1) I think perhaps the first thing that people seeking help should
>> provide should be the big-picture obvious things, but unfortunately are
>> often omitted. These are the things I would want people to always give:
>>
>> a) What operating system.
>> If Linux, also include the output of: cat /etc/system-release
>> If Unix-like, include the output of: uname -a
>>
>> b) Are you using the system-provided executables, or has the user
>> attempted to compile from source? This includes:
>> Apache httpd
>> Python
>> mod_wsgi
>>
>> For RPM-based Linux systems, also include the output of:
>> rpm -qa mod_\* httpd\* python
>>
>> c) If running Linux, are the SElinux security extensions being used?
>> Include the output of running: sestatus
>>
>> [Perhaps we might some day need a lot more on using mod_wsgi
>> in an SElinux environment, as more and more people seem to be
>> getting bit by it as SElinux is becoming the default install. I can
>> perhaps help with documenting that ???]
>>
>>
>> (3) The part about examining the apxs script to locate a config.nice
>> file could be too challenging. Under Fedora 13 for instance, parts of
>> the apxs script look like:
>>
>> ...
>> my $libdir = `pkg-config --variable=libdir apr-1`;
>> chomp $libdir;
>> my $installbuilddir = $libdir . "/httpd/build";
>> ...
>>
>> which if you don't know Perl and don't know about pkg-config (a
>> Red Hat invention), then you'd be hard pressed to figure out the
>> build dir. BTW, under Fedora it will be one of these depending on
>> whether you're 32- or 64-bit:
>>
>> /usr/lib/httpd/build/
>> /usr/lib64/httpd/build/
>>
>> Furthermore, there's not even a config.nice file at all. Instead, being
>> RPM based, to see how Apache was built you have to get the SRPM
>> file (Source RPM), which contains all the configure and make options.
>>
>> So, under RPM linuxes, getting this is going to be problematic, or at
>> least quite a bit more complicated.
>>
>> Instead, under such cases, I'd suggest that the user at least provide the
>> rpm package details and distro version [as I suggested under (1) above,
>> by running "rpm -qi httpd" and "cat /etc/system-release"]
>>
>>
>> (4) When looking for the header apr.h, if you're under a RPM Linux,
>> you may need to install the (optional) development packages, and
>> specifically the apr-devel package.
>>
>>
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>> Deron Meranda
>> http://deron.meranda.us/
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