Thanks for letting me know. Another detail I should try and note in
documentation when I catch up.

On 29 November 2011 03:45, caroline <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello Graham
>
> I've finally found the solution to this issue. It was cx_Oracle module
> that was causing the process to crash. Because the default value of
> this module is threaded=False, then i had to add this parameter  in
> the database configuration of our application:
>
> 'OPTIONS': {
>    'threaded': True,
> }
>
> It was documented in the django-oracle documentation but i didn't
> remember to put this.
>
> Thank you very much for all your help.
>
> Caro
>
> On 27 nov, 17:30, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Use gdb as discussed before to try and capture a stack trace of where
>> problem occurs. Only way you can even start to work it out.
>>
>> Also list what third party Python packages you are using which have a
>> C extension component. Can do this by looking for any packages in your
>> site-packages which have a .so file.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> On 28 November 2011 01:11, caroline <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi
>>
>> > What can i do for detecting which c extension module isn't thread
>> > safe ?
>>
>> > Caro
>>
>> > On 26 nov, 23:21, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> You could be using a C extension module which isn't thread safe.
>>
>> >> BTW, you didn't need to force single thread to attach gdb to try and
>> >> capture crash, but perhaps fortuitous you did as has narrowed down
>> >> what the problem is. :-)
>>
>> >> Graham
>>
>> >> On 27 November 2011 14:55, caroline <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Hello Graham
>>
>> >> > I've made some more tests, using the debugging technique that you
>> >> > wrote (with gdb), and when i put threads=1 the premature end of script
>> >> > headers message doesn't appear anymore, so i couldn't see anything
>> >> > relevant on gdb,  Is this normal?. I repeatedly tested the application
>> >> > without any values or with threads greater than 1 in the wsgi daemon
>> >> > process definition (without using gdb of course) but the message
>> >> > appeared again, so now i'm kind of confused.
>> >> > Why could be the reason for the message doesn't appearing when
>> >> > threads=1?
>>
>> >> > Thanks for your help
>>
>> >> > --
>>
>> >> > On 23 nov, 18:01, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> Do you run any sort of monitoring system which kills processes
>> >> >> automatically if memory exceeds some set amount?
>>
>> >> >> Only other thing can think of is that something is sending a single to
>> >> >> daemon processes and killing them. This can't just be SIGINT or SIGHUP
>> >> >> though as the daemon process in those cases would log something and it
>> >> >> isn't that I can see from the parts of the virtual host log file you
>> >> >> have posted.
>>
>> >> >> BTW, you might consider New Relic (www.newrelic.com) trial to see if
>> >> >> it that sheds any light. Both the Python agent and server monitoring.
>>
>> >> >> Disclaimer. I work at New Relic and am writing the Python agent. The
>> >> >> pro trial you get on initial sign up and before it drops down to free
>> >> >> lite subscription still could be useful to help track things down,
>> >> >> although if processes are dying suddenly then may not.
>>
>> >> >> Graham
>>
>> >> >> On 24 November 2011 09:49, caroline <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Hello Graham
>>
>> >> >> > On 22 nov, 17:20, Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> On 23 November 2011 01:33, caroline <[email protected]> 
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > Hi Graham
>>
>> >> >> >> > I've made the change you mentioned on the main apache 
>> >> >> >> > configuration
>> >> >> >> > file, but now the error message of 'premature end of script 
>> >> >> >> > headers'
>> >> >> >> > appears almost constantly. It appears like this in the vhost error
>> >> >> >> > log:
>>
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:19 2011] [error] [client 172.16.0.2] Premature 
>> >> >> >> > end
>> >> >> >> > of script headers: pinax.wsgi, referer: 
>> >> >> >> > http:///www.myvhost2.com/account/login/?next=/
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:19 2011] [error] [client 172.16.0.2] Premature 
>> >> >> >> > end
>> >> >> >> > of script headers: pinax.wsgi, 
>> >> >> >> > referer:http://www.myvhost2.com/lms/courses/
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:19 2011] [error] [client 172.16.0.2] Premature 
>> >> >> >> > end
>> >> >> >> > of script headers: pinax.wsgi, 
>> >> >> >> > referer:http://www.myvhost2.com/lms/courses/
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:20 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25450): Attach
>> >> >> >> > interpreter ''.
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:20 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25450): Adding 
>> >> >> >> > '/var/
>> >> >> >> > quicklearn/env/lib/python2.6/site-packages' to path.
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:20 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25450): Adding 
>> >> >> >> > '/var/
>> >> >> >> > quicklearn/trunk' to path.
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:21 2011] [info] [client 172.16.0.2] mod_wsgi
>> >> >> >> > (pid=25450, process='quicklearn', application=''): Loading WSGI 
>> >> >> >> > script
>> >> >> >> > '/var/quicklearn/trunk/deploy/pinax.wsgi'.
>>
>> >> >> >> Anything prior to this in same time frame?
>>
>> >> >> >> > And in the apache main error log at the same time :
>>
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:20:31 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25149): Process
>> >> >> >> > 'quicklearn' has died, restarting.
>>
>> >> >> >> Were there any messages in main Apache error log prior to this in 
>> >> >> >> same
>> >> >> >> time frame.
>>
>> >> >> > In the apache error log file i only found messages like this:
>>
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:01:59 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25954): Process
>> >> >> > 'quicklearn' has died, restarting.
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:01:59 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=14133): Starting
>> >> >> > process 'quicklearn' with uid=48, gid=48 and threads=16.
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:02:09 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: grabbed
>> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 14165 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:02:09 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker
>> >> >> > proxy:reverse already initialized
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:02:09 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1934): proxy:
>> >> >> > initialized single connection worker 0 in child 14165 for (*)
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:02:44 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: grabbed
>> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 14169 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:02:44 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker
>> >> >> > proxy:reverse already initialized
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:02:44 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1934): proxy:
>> >> >> > initialized single connection worker 0 in child 14169 for (*)
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:03:38 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: grabbed
>> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 14187 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:03:38 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker
>> >> >> > proxy:reverse already initialized
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:03:38 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1934): proxy:
>> >> >> > initialized single connection worker 0 in child 14187 for (*)
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:20 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25953): Process
>> >> >> > 'quicklearn' has died, restarting.
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:20 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=14198): Starting
>> >> >> > process 'quicklearn' with uid=48, gid=48 and threads=16.
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:23 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: grabbed
>> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 14222 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:23 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker
>> >> >> > proxy:reverse already initialized
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:23 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1934): proxy:
>> >> >> > initialized single connection worker 0 in child 14222 for (*)
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:48 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: grabbed
>> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 14227 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:48 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker
>> >> >> > proxy:reverse already initialized
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:48 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1934): proxy:
>> >> >> > initialized single connection worker 0 in child 14227 for (*)
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:51 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: grabbed
>> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 14228 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:51 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker
>> >> >> > proxy:reverse already initialized
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:04:51 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1934): proxy:
>> >> >> > initialized single connection worker 0 in child 14228 for (*)
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:05:05 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=14198): Process
>> >> >> > 'quicklearn' has died, restarting.
>> >> >> > [Wed Nov 23 17:05:05 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=14238): Starting
>> >> >> > process 'quicklearn' with uid=48, gid=48 and threads=16.
>>
>> >> >> >> It may not be segmentation fault. It is generally though a message
>> >> >> >> which doesn't have the date/time prefix as output at a lower level
>> >> >> >> than Apache logging API. Provide the preceding messages so I can 
>> >> >> >> look
>> >> >> >> through.
>>
>> >> >> > I've searched for messages like this on logs but i haven't found
>> >> >> > anything like you mention.
>>
>> >> >> >> If you operating system has a crash logs directory you might look in
>> >> >> >> there for evidence of crashing apache/httpd processes.
>>
>> >> >> >> If the problem is now more frequent, try and work out if it is a
>> >> >> >> specific URL. Look in Apache access logs to see if 500 error status
>> >> >> >> for same URL a lot of the time. In other words, try and reliably
>> >> >> >> duplicate it.
>>
>> >> >> >> Being able to duplicate it, you could then attach gdb to a mod_wsgi
>> >> >> >> daemon process and try and catch the crash. Details on how to do 
>> >> >> >> that
>> >> >> >> can be found in:
>>
>> >> >> >>http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/DebuggingTechniques#Debugging_C...
>>
>> >> >> > I'm going to apply this technique, and i'll inform you about its
>> >> >> > results.
>>
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:20:31 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25413): Starting
>> >> >> >> > process 'quicklearn' with uid=48, gid=48 and threads=16.
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:20 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25145): Process
>> >> >> >> > 'quicklearn' has died, restarting.
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:20 2011] [info] mod_wsgi (pid=25450): Starting
>> >> >> >> > process 'quicklearn' with uid=48, gid=48 and threads=16.
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:32 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: 
>> >> >> >> > grabbed
>> >> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 25475 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:32 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: 
>> >> >> >> > worker
>> >> >> >> > proxy:reverse already initialized
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:21:32 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1934): proxy:
>> >> >> >> > initialized single connection worker 0 in child 25475 for (*)
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:22:31 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1818): proxy: 
>> >> >> >> > grabbed
>> >> >> >> > scoreboard slot 0 in child 25493 for worker proxy:reverse
>> >> >> >> > [Tue Nov 22 09:22:31 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: 
>> >> >> >> > worker
>> >> >> >> > proxy:reverse already...
>>
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