Thanks. I want to make sure I understand. It seems like at 
https://pypi.org/project/mod-wsgi/ "Running mod_wsgi-express as root" it 
says the process is similar to:

   - run mod_wsgi-express ... --server-root=<wsgi-dir>
   - create systemd service file which runs <wsgi-dir>/apachectl start/stop 
   commands

i.e., the mod_wsgi-express command is executed once to create the 
environment, and the <wsgi-dir>/apachectl command is used when service is 
started/stopped/restarted

Am I getting this right?

On Wednesday, January 22, 2020 at 7:31:35 AM UTC-5, Graham Dumpleton wrote:
>
> If using mod_wsgi-express as a system service, ensure you set —server-root 
> so that files aren’t placed in /tmp. Using /tmp as a persistent location 
> can fail if the Linux system implements a cron job that removes stuff under 
> /tmp if older than a certain date.
>
> The note about using —server-root in this case is mentioned in:
>
> https://pypi.org/project/mod-wsgi/
>
> along with other suggestions about using generated config for integration 
> into system init scripts.
>
> Graham
>
> On 22 Jan 2020, at 1:52 am, Lou King <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
> Everything was running along fine, then all of a sudden I received 
> complaints that people were getting 403 forbidden from my server. 
>
> I looked in all the /var/log, server logs, etc., but didn't think to look 
> at /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/error_log until after restarting the 
> service (I'm using systemd). I knew the 403 errors started at 8:21 Jan 21 
> by viewing the virtual host's request log, but after restarting the service 
> found the following in the mod_wsgi log:
>
> [Mon Jan 20 21:53:13.249739 2020] [wsgi:error] [pid 20392:tid 
> 140270704191232] [remote 198.199.82.162:35964] [2020-01-20 21:53:13,249] 
> INFO in __init__: 66.249.79.119: GET http://
> routes.loutilities.com/robots.txt/routes 403
> [Mon Jan 20 21:53:13.549214 2020] [wsgi:error] [pid 20392:tid 
> 140270695798528] [remote 198.199.82.162:35968] [2020-01-20 21:53:13,549] 
> INFO in __init__: 66.249.79.121: GET http://
> routes.loutilities.com/fsrc/routes 200
> [Tue Jan 21 04:47:53.399163 2020] [wsgi:error] [pid 20392:tid 
> 140270704191232] [remote 198.199.82.162:42670] [2020-01-21 04:47:53,398] 
> INFO in __init__: 173.252.87.47: GET http://routes.loutilities.com/ 302
> [Tue Jan 21 04:47:55.573795 2020] [wsgi:error] [pid 20392:tid 
> 140270695798528] [remote 198.199.82.162:42674] [2020-01-21 04:47:55,573] 
> INFO in __init__: 173.252.95.26: GET http://routes.loutilities.com/ 302
> [Tue Jan 21 08:21:05.017486 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20393:tid 
> 140271178082048] [client 198.199.82.162:49262] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://steeplechasers.org/training/running-routes/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:21:09.020530 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20420:tid 
> 140271178348288] [client 198.199.82.162:49264] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://steeplechasers.org/training/running-routes/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:21:09.952862 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20393:tid 
> 140271099369216] [client 198.199.82.162:49266] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://steeplechasers.org/training/running-routes/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:21:10.811980 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20420:tid 
> 140271178082048] [client 198.199.82.162:49268] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://steeplechasers.org/training/running-routes/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:21:19.475125 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20393:tid 
> 140271177549568] [client 198.199.82.162:49270] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://steeplechasers.org/training/running-routes/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:21:23.131160 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20420:tid 
> 140271178614528] [client 198.199.82.162:49272] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://steeplechasers.org/training/running-routes/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:21:24.440572 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20420:tid 
> 140271177549568] [client 198.199.82.162:49276] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://steeplechasers.org/training/running-routes/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:23:38.045572 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20420:tid 
> 140271099369216] [client 198.199.82.162:49322] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs
> [Tue Jan 21 08:36:40.705930 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20393:tid 
> 140271098836736] [client 198.199.82.162:49516] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://m.facebook.com/
> [Tue Jan 21 08:36:41.109523 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20393:tid 
> 140271177283328] [client 198.199.82.162:49518] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs, referer: 
> https://routes.loutilities.com/fsrc/routes
> [Tue Jan 21 08:47:53.231357 2020] [authz_core:error] [pid 20420:tid 
> 140271098836736] [client 198.199.82.162:49730] AH01630: client denied by 
> server configuration: /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8001:0/htdocs
>
>
> i.e., everything running along fine until the request 8:21. 
>
> As mentioned I didn't look into this log until after restarting the 
> service, so I didn't get a chance to inspect the /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:
> 8001:0/htdocs directory to see what the issue was.
>
> I did systemctl status on the service before the restart and all looked 
> well. 
>
> [lking@loutility-server-digitalocean ~]$ sudo systemctl status vhost-
> routetility-sandbox.service
> ● vhost-routetility-sandbox.service - start routetility www proxy server
>    Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/vhost-routetility-sandbox.service; 
> enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
>    Active: active (running) since Mon 2020-01-20 11:53:57 EST; 23h ago
>  Main PID: 19331 (start-wsgi-serv)
>    CGroup: /system.slice/vhost-routetility-sandbox.service
>            ├─19331 /bin/bash /root/bin/start-wsgi-server runningroutes 
> sandbox.routes.loutilities.com routesmgr routesmgr 8002
>            ├─19332 httpd (mod_wsgi-express) -f /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:
> 8002:0/httpd.conf -DMOD_WSGI_VIRTUAL_HOST -DMOD_WSGI_MPM_E...
>            ├─19335 httpd (mod_wsgi-express) -f /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:
> 8002:0/httpd.conf -DMOD_WSGI_VIRTUAL_HOST -DMOD_WSGI_MPM_E...
>            ├─19978 httpd (mod_wsgi-express) -f /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:
> 8002:0/httpd.conf -DMOD_WSGI_VIRTUAL_HOST -DMOD_WSGI_MPM_E...
>            └─19979 (wsgi:localhost:8002:0)  -f /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:
> 8002:0/httpd.conf -DMOD_WSGI_VIRTUAL_HOST -DMOD_WSGI_MPM_E...
>
>
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Server Conf        : /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8002:0/ht...onf
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Error Log File     : /tmp/mod_wsgi-localhost:8002:0/er...rn)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Request Capacity   : 5 (1 process * 5 threads)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Request Timeout    : 60 (seconds)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Startup Timeout    : 15 (seconds)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Queue Backlog      : 100 (connections)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Queue Timeout      : 45 (seconds)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Server Capacity    : 20 (event/worker), 20 (prefork)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Server Backlog     : 500 (connections)
> Jan 20 11:53:57 loutility-server-digitalocean start-wsgi-server[19331]: 
> Locale Setting     : en_US.UTF-8
> Hint: Some lines were ellipsized, use -l to show in full.
>
>
> Have you heard of this before? I will definitely check /tmp/mod_wsgi-
> localhost:8001:0/htdocs directory if this happens again.
>
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