That catridge starting added to the drama of "Flight Of The Phoenix" . I would 
have had more confidence in the integrity of the rebuilt "Phoenix" had that 
German fellow been a free flight builder and not radio control. Therefore 
someone who really knew something about aerodynamics.
 and not just pushing buttons on a control box to overcome design flaws.
Paul,Evanston

From: jeffrey smith <[email protected]>
To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Fw: [FFScale] Fw: Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20 first start

I've often though a cartridge starter would be a great addition to my 4/4! 
Might get 3 revolutions, even.

Jeff S
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Billing" <[email protected]>
To: "mogtalk2" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:53 AM
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Fw: [FFScale] Fw: Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20 first start


> Thanks for that. It stirred a few memories of one who was reared on Seafires 
> ( the Navy`s version of the Spitfire). Later I was on Seafuries with 
> Centaurus 18 Cylinder radials and then Fireflies with Griffon engines. And we 
> didn`t have the luxury of electric starters either, it was cartridges. One 
> bang and you got about two rotations. In those days we young air mechanics 
> had to start and taxi the beasts. `Elf and safety would have something to say 
> about that nowadays.
> Send `em off flying and sit in the sun and polish the BSA till they came back.
> Happy days.
> Ron.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen Jenkins" <[email protected]>
> To: "mogtalk2" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 9:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Fw: [FFScale] Fw: Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20 first 
> start
> 
> 
>> A Spitfire would cruise at about 5 mpg. That's probably better than you'd 
>> get from a car. Several people have put Merlins into cars over the years. I 
>> believe they'd have been quite pleased to have achieved 5 mpg. 2 - 3 is more 
>> likely.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Owen.
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Bailey" <[email protected]>
>> To: "mogtalk2" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 8:14 AM
>> Subject: RE: [mogtalk2] Fw: [FFScale] Fw: Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20 first 
>> start
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Jeff, wonderful, I wonder how many miles to the gallon and what a 
>> rebuild costs ?? I´d love to drop one of those into a vintage 8 litre body 
>> then get it clothed in Brooklands body work, what a motor
>> best
>> Mike
>> SWS
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> 
>> From: jeffrey smith [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Thu 14/06/2012 02:18
>> To: mogtalk2
>> Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Fw: [FFScale] Fw: Pratt & Whitney R-4360-20 first 
>> start
>> 
>> 
>> Nice, although I prefer the sound of a Rolls-Royce/Packard Merlin myself.
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yprfH5ZsAHk
>> 
>> Now, with the advent of all-electric cars like the Nissan Leaf that 
>> pedestrians can't hear coming, I see an opportunity!
>> 
>> -Jeff S
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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