Will do! (and it's actually available in Dallas, along with Sanders hot fudge) 
Can't get a decent coney island hot dog here, though.

Wish I was attending the Woodward Dream Cruise back home later this week!

Jeff S
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: paul helman 
  To: mogtalk2 
  Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 4:15 PM
  Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Why? And GTM frolics & news from the Motor City


  I was just there to visit my sister a couple of weeks ago. It is a fine and 
very impressive institution. Have a Vernors on me!
  Paul,Evanston



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  From: jeffrey smith <smith...@tx.rr.com>
  To: mogtalk2 <mogta...@listbox.com> 
  Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 12:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Why? And GTM frolics & news from the Motor City



  Likewise....both my kids born at Beaumont in Royal Oak.

  -Jeff S
  Plano TX
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paul Helman 
    To: mogtalk2 
    Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 10:52 AM
    Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Why? And GTM frolics & news from the Motor City


    I am from Detroit (assuming you were referencing that)and found 
congratulations. Was she at Beaumont?
    Paul,Evanston( I was just speaking to Gordon Lisamore who reinforced his 
fram with fabricated steel "fish plate" and high strength aviation screws. This 
was done in the 90's I believe and has stood the test of time and use out in 
Northern California) His is a plus four quatro posto from 1960)

    Sent from my iPad

    On Aug 11, 2012, at 3:45 AM, Brian Cowell <f.brian.cow...@gmail.com> wrote:


      Hear hear.

      Brian of SpotMog


      On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Mike Bailey <mike.bai...@lionhart.net> 
wrote:

        Congrats to you and your daughter Owen
        best
        Mike
        Solihull

        ________________________________

        From: Owen Jenkins [mailto:o...@osjl.co.uk]
        Sent: Fri 10/08/2012 21:36
        To: mogtalk2
        Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] Why? And GTM frolics & news from the Motor City



        Richard,

        Aluminium plate bolted to a steel chassis will rot and drop out, unless 
you
        insulate it, in which case you can expect crevice corrosion. The marine 
ply
        in my 24-year old 4 seater may be stained and discoloured, but it is not
        rotten. Ally is also noisy and will dent and puncture, knowing the way 
you
        treat cars. Tools needed for replacement with plywood: saw, screwdriver 
and
        spanner. Conclusion - marine ply is superior.

        Fuel tank on planks: they are rigid, energy absorbing and offer some
        cushioning effect and noise damping. The chassis flexes. If you fix the 
tank
        to it rigidly, you'll get fatigue cracks in the tank. Tools needed for
        replacement of planks: saw, hammer and spanner. Conclusion - wooden 
planks
        are superior.

        In both my cars the battery is under the bonnet and always has been. 
Most
        people who have struggled with batteries at the back seem to think that 
it's
        a lousy place for a battery. It's probably a lousy place for a fuel pump
        too.

        You may remember that the earliest +8s had a steel floor which rusted so
        fast that they were replaced with plywood PDQ.

        Next?

        Meanwhile, news from the GTM. Yesterday was another eventful day. A 
Shelby
        Cobra (a real one) suffered expensive gearbox problems
        (clunk-graunch-clank-bang-bang-bang-bang-bang type).

        The starter motor on my 4/4 stuck in the engaged position. With so much
        noise on the circuit, I could not figure out what this awful noise was. 
I
        pulled off and into the paddock. When I turned off the engine, it kept 
on
        making a lot of noise: battery reading 11 volts and dropping? Yes, the 
fan's
        on as it's awfully hot (Ferrari screams past). Blimey! Timing belt 
cover is
        vibrating. The engine's still turning over! Ah! I now have an 
eco-electric
        car that won't stop. Disconnect battery. Let it cool down. Pray hard.

        Once cool, the Bendix did drop out, however, there's not enough juice 
in the
        battery to get it going. Bump start boys! Didn't work - no spark.

        Jump start! So Bill drove up his 1930 Austin Seven, newly converted to 
12
        volt electrics and we tried jump starting it. No joy. So we came home 
with
        the aid of Morgan Rescue. The car's now in the local Ford garage here in
        Aboyne. Prayers are being said by all. I shall be taking the +8 to the
        Historic Wheels gathering on Sunday. Of course you need two Morgans. 
I've
        just proved it.

        Further news: from the Motor City: my daughter gave birth to a 6lb. 13 
oz.
        daughter Olive Marie two hours ago. Mother and child doing OK, by the 
look
        of the pictures. Dad has a silly grin on his face. Grandmother is now
        worrying about daughter feeding child.

        Cheers,
        Owen.

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Richard L Smith" <greystonespr...@btconnect.com>
        To: "mogtalk2" <mogta...@listbox.com>
        Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:52 PM
        Subject: [mogtalk2] Why?


        > The more I get to know my Mog (by taking it to bits) the more I ask 
"why"
        >
        > Why are the floorboards wood, when they could be aluminium plate? (
        > Why is the fuel tank mounted on planks instead of direct to the 
chassis?
        > Or onto another ali plate?
        > Why is the fuel pump mounted on a bit of thin plate when it could be
        > mounted on the same deck as the battery?
        >
        > OK, so the answer is 'because they have always been like that', but 
when
        > others rebuild their cars, do they stick to tradition, or do they 
improve?
        > Assuming, of course, that replacing plywood with ali is an 
improvement.
        >
        > Or am I blaspheming?
        >
        > Richard S
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