Chris,
I agree, it would be a difficult decision to give up the wet grip of the T1-Rs.
I'm starting to get used to treating the Morgan like any other car in the
wet, i.e. driving as normal, rather than tip-toeing round bends. (OK not
quite like any other car, but you get my drift -- no pun intended, since the
T1-Rs grip)
This has sparked some interesting answers, notably Tim's point that narrower
isn't necessarily worse, and Gerald's 205/65 being standard on his Plus 4.
That's quite a bit bigger.
Also Roger's comment about the speedo accuracy -- if you have the VDO unit,
like mine, it's easily recalibrated. I used the instruction sheet in the
gomog site. Mine was 7% off, now within 1%, based on a satnav for speed,
and google maps on a long run for distance. 7% would mean my 7500 mi agreed
mileage would actually be only 7000 mi.
Here's a quick table illustrating the difference in ground clearance for a few
of the mentioned tyre sizes
Tim
Tyre size nominal change in
radius (in) ground
clearance (in)
Standard 205 60 15 12.34
T1-R sole size 205 55 15 11.94 -0.40
195 65 15 12.49 0.15
215 55 15 12.16 -0.19
205 65 15 12.75 0.40
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From: Chris Bailey [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 April 2012 15:50
To: mogtalk2
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [mogtalk2] MidMog CT now ground clearance
Tim
I totally understand where you're coming from and the frustrations of minimum
ground clearance but for me I'll put up with that inconvenience for the
outstanding grip (particularly in the wet) that the Toyo Proxes T1-Rs give me.
It would have to be a very exceptional tyre that beats it in my opinion and
especially at the price I paid for the last ones.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Carpenter, Tim<mailto:[email protected]>
To: mogtalk2<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] MidMog CT now ground clearance
Roy,
I have the same Toyo Proxes ground clearance issue. I fitted a set this
time last year on my Plus 8, and the difference in the wet from the Pirelli
"ditch-finders" is tremendous. But I lose something like 4/10 inch in
ground clearance due to the move from 205/60 to 205/55. Quite obviously I
used to be within 4/10" of quite a few speed bumps, including one on my shared
driveway. I now keep two pieces of plank at that bump just to get the
chassis cross-member over it.
So, question for anyone, next time round, is there anything which is available
in 205/60 that offers anything like the Toyo Proxes' wet performance? I'd
trade some of it in to get my ground clearance back.
Or what about 195/65? Fractionally more ground clearance than the
original, but obviously not the same in extremis dry grip. Arguably no
worse in the wet, and probably better for trials?
Tim
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From: Roy Wilkinson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 26 April 2012 10:31
To: mogtalk2
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: [mogtalk2] MidMog CT
Chris,
My set up is not standard at the moment, I have Toyo Proxes on Minilite Wheels
from my "having a go at
SpeedMog sprinting" so I am far too low on ground clearance for Trials!
However, I can revert to my original
Rostyles, which I still have, with tyres with more grip. Probably do this and
hopefully be allowed to enter at
a revised date,
Roy.
From: Chris Bailey <[email protected]>
To: mogtalk2 <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April 2012, 8:27
Subject: Re: [mogtalk2] MidMog CT
Roy
I can't help thinking you're being far too competitive! The whole idea of the
Club Car Trials is that you can drive a standard model without ANY
modification. Last year (or the year before) Ian Charlesworth entered his Aero
8!
It's a bit like sprinting, have a go, talk to others and then make any changes
you feel may make an improvement. You may otherwise spend money unnecessarily.
Just my thoughts.
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