Let me give you my take on this. On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:54 AM, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> We provide documentation and expect that people read them ... docs/ > CHANGES contains docs about every noteworthy change we do, ... Aye, there's the rub. Buried in the blizzard of literally a thousand that's-nice-but-I-don't-give-a-damn enhancements that require no action on my part are a couple of lines of do-this-or-your-upgrade- will-fail action. Before I upgraded, I read the docs. When I had problems, I read the docs again, did Google searches, the whole nine yards. I still had to ask on the mailing list. Yes, the information is there in docs/CHANGES, but part of _your_ job in preparing an upgrade is to highlight the information I absolutely must know in order to succeed. You didn't do that, and people are rightfully complaining. My experience with the upgrade was bad enough that I've resisted doing any more upgrades. You say you've done better, but you still have a huge file of piddly detail that you expect every one of us to plow through for the one or two points where we must actually do something. And even then there's not a lot of help. It's not enough to know that the, say, authentication API has changed, there needs to be some guidance how my code has to change, more than just "look in the new files." From what I've seen on the mailing list, many of your users are not accomplished Python programmers; some of them can't even program. And most of us just don't have the time to dig through the source code to figure out what to do. You have to cater to us by providing clear, explicit, _complete_ documentation about how to upgrade, or we'll look elsewhere for someone who makes it easier. Hope this helps, -- Greg Noel, retired UNIX guru ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user