Hi Luis,

I wasn't blaming mongrel for the performance problems in general. I  
realize that we need to look at the Rails application as well.

My question was more along the lines of whether we would see any  
_additional_ gains in using a newer version of mongrel.

Thanks for all your points.

Matthew


On 25.02.2008, at 17:22, Luis Lavena wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 6:57 AM, Matthew Langham
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> we have a project where mongrel 1.0.1 has been in use in production
>> for a few months now. Everything works fine except we run into marked
>> performance problems if the setup has been running a couple of weeks
>> without a restart. The general performance slows down quite a bit but
>> restarting everything brings it back to normal.
>>
>> So we are looking at areas that could be relevant and therefore
>> considering upgrading mongrel to 1.0.5.
>>
>> Can anyone provide insight on whether this could help our performance
>> issues?
>>
>
> Maybe no-one will comment this, but most of the "long running process"
> problems are not (directly) Mongrel related, but Rails related.
>
> It seems quite common blame Mongrel because it hides behind a simple
> "mongrel_rails" script or a cluster of mongrels. But after all,
> mongrel is running your Rails application. period.
>
> Mongrel offers to Rails a layer to process the HTTP protocol and serve
> the CGI-like information to the Rails Dispatcher, nothing more,
> nothing less.
>
> If you don't provide/create custom handlers (in mongrel) that's the
> most Mongrel do for Rails.
>
> I've seen several memory leaks from Rails, and tried to pinpoint some
> of them, ended repeating the work done in the past by others but that
> never got integrated into Ruby or Rails core.
>
> Like, for example, the Benchmark::realtime "abuse" that Rails do and
> the huge amount of memory it allocated in the past (now fixed in Ruby
> trunk and 1_8 branch).
>
> Migrating to Mongrel 1.0.5 wouldn't fix that, and you will keep
> blaming Mongrel for the problem.
>
> I'll suggest you plan a monit/god sweep and respawn strategy for your
> rails processes.
>
> Besides that, guess is time for you to start looking at things your
> application is using to became slower with the time:
>
> - Use of image processing plugins/extensions/gems like RMagick
> - Files opened without proper closing (File.open without a block or
> file#close after use of it).
> - String concatenation using += instead of <<
> - Misused queries over associations in your ActiveRecord models (use
> of length to determine the size of a associated array instead of
> .size).
>
> Those are the more common mistakes.
>
> HTH,
> -- 
> Luis Lavena
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