Hello, As no doubt some of us have already read: Havoc just released an article[1] describing the important decision that Opensource is facing of what Managed World(tm) we will all adopt.
In doing so he gave Mono a real black eye and I think we need to stand up and defend ourselves or risk loosing a lot. It is sad for me to see that the discussion got off to such a bad start, but Im sure that Havoc was only trying to be realistic. But still, it is sad to see that he says he is attempting to open the lines of discussion and then promptly bashes everything except gcj and classpath. We need to start advocating our platform, we need to start voicing ourselves. A lot is at stake here. We _must_ act. Personally, I think Havoc was taking a very black/white approach to things. But why does the GNOME core really need to be mutually exclusive when viewing gcj or Mono? Isnt there room for both? doesn't opensource thrive due to it's genetic diversity. I understand the argument he makes, and I realize that integrating both gcj and Mono would be more than twice as much work as implementing either one alone. However by finding a way to integrate both Worlds(tm) we would not only be safer (by not putting all our eggs in one basket) but also more advanced. Ok, so now it sounds like I have no idea what Im talking about (and probably dont :P) because implementing both systems is impossible, right? Yes, as things stand currently I admint it would be hard to impossible. < uninformed_and_idealistic_rant > We would need to get _everyone_ onboard and re-engineer the entire desktop into a truely component based system (this should be done regardless of which Managed World(tm) ends up being integrated). If the entire platform were truely and completely component based then I think there would be room for both Managed Worlds(tm) and developers could choose to target which ever they feel more comfortable with. Win, win. </ uninformed_and_idealistic_rant > Further more, Havoc sites the problem of a possible fork if Mono is chosen and sites the legal limbo quagmire that we are currently wallowing in as the reason for it. How is that legal review coming? Do we have a time line? And finally, I think that if a fork were to take place (by Novel choosing to go it alone and integrate Mono into the core of its Ximian Desktop) that we would survive the storm and eventually we would prevail. I think Mono has the critical mass needed in order to weather a fork-storm, although I really hope we dont need to fork. Please, please, please, please do not sit idly by and watch as a Mono based desktop is yanked out of our reach. We need action. Lots of it. Alex Combas "sabmoc"@irc.gnome.org#mono [1]http://ometer.com/desktop-language.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mono-list maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/mono-list
