Hi
On 2012.02.27 14:13, Jamie Briant wrote:
Is this as good as it gets? I'm attempting to build an MfA version of
my MT app and its proving extremely frustrating, to the extent that
I'm considering just writing the thing in Java. My reason for using MT
was the awfulness of Objective-C, and while java is frustrating its
entirely doable. The only thing at this point is the real possibility
that a WP7 version will be next, so I might as well bite the bullet now.
Context: I'm using Visual Studio, Resharper, and my own Monotouch VSIX
to load MT projects. I edit entirely in VS, and build in MD on the
mac. I've tried Project Linker.
I'm digging my way towards MT and will try Your extension in next days...
Problem: MfA, MT and WP7 require different .XXproj file formats.
There's no getting around this for WP7.
Why is this a problem?
1. "This file is open in another project". (and associated
Intellisense death)
OK. I get this warning, but no intellisense death.
If I try to open linked file (Project Linker) in M4A project it pops
this error and opens
file in WP7 project! This is annoying, cos I have "tracking active item
in explorer" set to true,
making VS Explorer moving...
OK. I'm not using Resharper. Almost year ago I had bunch of weird
problems with VS plugins and
extensions - right now have only bare minimum...
2. Refactorings don't refactor #if/#endif code.
3. Refactorings don't refactor code in linked projects at all.
4. Resharper completely horked.
Ok. Right now: pls don't get angry, but could You try to disable
ReSharper for a while.
It may have problems with getting the intellisense info from linked files
Basically, I cannot work the way I work. And if I can't do that - if I
can't keep the apps in sync /as I work/ I might as well use java: if I
have to retype the code I can just as easily convert it to java as I type.
Project Linker doesn't solve any of these. It makes things slightly
less broken, but the flip side is I managed to delete a whole ton of
files off disk as I tried to remove them from the MfA project.
I managed to do something similar even without ProjectLinker.
Source Control as an alternative. I thought about having separate
branches and handling it that way. But this fundamentally fails for
refactoring often. It made me wonder how on earth teams of programmers
collaborate. When I decide to take a class, split it into two and then
pull out a common base, all with new names: how does a team deal with
that? I refactor continuously.
*A Possible Solution*
Could the MT and MfA compilers/linkers/projects be made to accept WP7
projects as References?
Probably no.
Tested WP7 added as reference to M4A:
after adding:
Warning 1 The project
'HolisticWare.PhActEx_2011.DLL_211_BL_mClnt_WP7_SL4_netfx4' cannot be
referenced.
The referenced project is targeted to a different framework family
(Silverlight)
Compiles - ok.
Runtime - not tested...
Then I could factor out common code into a shared library - but it
would claim to be WP7 so the WP7 app could use it. The MT and MfA apps
would ignore the fact that the library is WP7. MT could solve any
problems at code generation time anyway.
*Pain*
How do the rest of you do this? Is Project Linker as good as it gets?
Our team does not use ReSharper, so Project Linker is quite good for us.
Most of our projects (currently 4 of 5) are smaller proof of concepts,
being prepared
for real coding. (Right now I do mostly logistics/infrastructure stuff -
for example
yesterday I have integrated DroidDraw into VS as external tool, so that
axml files
are automatically loaded...
I'm writing small writeup (the code is not in DraidDraw release yet)
The only one bigger project (40k LOC, SNMPsharp lib) which was ported to
M4A as
proof of concept is beeing transformed (code refactored) into solution
(single sln file
+ ProjectLinker) with targets for MT, M4A, SL and WPF. Its original
project was WPF only!
This is in-house project for one company so I'm not entitled to say more...
We are trying to convince them to switch to mobile apps (they have use
cases) an to buy
licences...
How do you deal with intellisense/resharper being completely horked?
Cannot tell
I'll try You extension on this new/bigger project and report my experience
regards
mel
Thanks,
jamie
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Miljenko Cvjetko
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good morning
On 2012.01.31 01 <tel:2012.01.31%2001>:59, Felix Collins wrote:
What is Project Linker?
Byproduct of Patterns and Practices project called Prism where MS
guys explain
code sharing on WPF, SL and lately WP7 platform.
Project linker is just a tool VS plugin that helps batch linking
of files. Defines
project dependencies in sense of code sharing (copy as link +
paste or copy + paste as link)
some refs:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff921108(v=pandp.20).aspx
<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff921108%28v=pandp.20%29.aspx>
http://visualstudiogallery.msdn.microsoft.com/5e730577-d11c-4f2e-8e2b-cbb87f76c044
Greg's sample with M4A
http://www.gregshackles.com/2010/12/shared-libraries-for-windows-phone-7-monodroid-and-beyond/
I like the tool, cos it is nonintrusive regarding IDE tools, does
not break VS (other plugins) and
works with MonoDevelop too (meaning one can do the linking in VS
and all links are picked up).
Right now besides integrating MTch stuff I'm trying to extend our
MultiTarget solution template to
include Project Linker stuff from the beginning, so the manual
addition of links is not necessary.
HTH
regards
mel
On 31/01/2012 12:46 p.m., Miljenko Cvjetko wrote:
Sharing code with Project Linker
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