On Oct 5, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Chris Fields wrote:

On Oct 5, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Ernesto wrote:

Am 05.10.2010 16:26 schrieb Oliver Charles:
On 05/10/10 15:24, Ernesto wrote:
New Frost version 0.67 is available on CPAN and my homepage.

From the changelog:

0.67 Su. October 3, 2010
 - Scalar::Util back in Makefile.PL, corrected doc in Frost
- show version of underlying Berkeley DB in t/100_meta/ 000_version.t
 - t/000_moose_examples and t/000_moose_recipes added and
moved the adopted tests from t/400_recipes here to keep the original
   Moose's name

Ernesto 8-)


I don't want to sound rude here, but I don't really appreciate these
emails. I subscribed to the Moose mailing list to get news about Moose,
but this is just a bit too far away from Moose for my liking.

It seems your distribution is mature enough now to have its own mailing
list; I find this a little to OT for the Moose mailing list.

Maybe. On the other hand, Frost is tightly bound to Moose - i.e.: You
can use almost (as yet) all Moose' features plus Frost's persistence by
just saying:

package Foo::Base;
# use Moose;
use Frost;             # extends Moose::Object with persistence
...

package Foo;
use Moose;
extends 'Foo::Base';   # inherits all persistence stuff
...

package Bar;
use Moose;
extends 'Foo';         # inherits all persistence stuff
...

Questions about Frost might show a problem of misunderstanding Moose or
even a bug in Moose - and vice versa.

So it might be worth having Frost here on [email protected].

By the way: MooseX::* is dealt with here, too.

I'd like to hear more opinions.

Ernesto 8-)

I agree with the others; this is a mailing list for Moose (and possibly MooseX::*). I don't recall other distributions using Moose (KiokuDB, Fey, etc) posting here.

chris

Ernesto,

I have to agree with chris here.

I am happy to entertain Moose issues that are encountered with Frost development and I think the initial Frost discussion was useful to the greater Moose community as well. In fact I would encourage anyone writing an ambitious module like Frost, that is so tightly bound to Moose, to come here or IRC and discuss things early in the process so that they can avoid re-inventing wheels and get some good early feedback. And actually, I even don't mind if you announce *major* updates of Frost here, but minor updates (like this one) are not really appropriate.

But to be honest, I would really prefer that you do not use [email protected] as a mailing list for Frost.

As for MooseX:: modules, they are Moose extensions so they should be dealt with here.

- Stevan





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