Hi Jon,
The dbug script (which I authored) has no dependencies. You can download it
and run it on its own if you like. You can download the MooTools library
from the mootools download page and then download additional scripts (from
MooTools More or from the Clientcide libraries). If you do this, you'll have
more than one script to include; -core, -more and/or the Clientcide
libraries.

The Clientcide builder gives you the option of building a single file with
the things you need. So you can download all of -core, and then specific
plugins you need from -more and the Clientcide libs and get a single js
file.

As for all of this being too complex, we've tried our best to make this as
simple and usable as we can. Is there something specific that you're having
problems with?

Looking at the error that you get with dbug, I don't think the problem is
with dbug (as, again, it has no dependencies). Your example script uses
domready (note that dbug.log doesn't interact with the DOM, so you don't
need to wait for it to log things), so if your clientcide download only
included dbug, and you didn't also include the MooTools -core (or at least
DomReady from it), then you'd get an error.

Can you post your test online?

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Jon Hancock <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> As a new user, I'm having difficulty getting a working mootools lib.
> As near as I can tell, the online build tools are too complex.  I
> download an uncompressed mootools-1.2.3-core-nc.js and head over to
> http://www.clientcide.com/js to get the dbug script.  Wow this page
> has way too many options.  I've tried many different ways of getting a
> dbug script as well as a script that includes tons of stuff I don't
> need right now, which is fine for my dev purposes.  It downloads as
> clientcide-trunk-2.1.0.js.  Do I need mootools more stuff?  I've tried
> multiple ways of building this lib as well.  This is way too complex
> for someone wanting to go from the online tutorials to playing with
> their own code.
>
> When I try something simple like a header script:
>
>  window.addEvent('domready', function(){
>   dbug.log("HELLO")
>  });
>
> All I get is a console error in firegub:
> fn is undefined
> http://localhost:4000/javascripts/clientcide-trunk-2.1.0.js?090915380490
> Line 2080
>
> Any advice for a noob?
>
> thanks, Jon
>

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