Hi,
I must admit to have not been famliliar with the clientside depender,
how could I have missed that?

However, I think that it would be a good idea to add a list of the
components selected to the more.js file so that one could see at a
glance what has been included.
Just my 2p :)

Chris

On Sep 10, 5:41 pm, Aaron Newton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jon,
> The Depender app which I've mentioned previously does exactly that. It
> produces a file you can download, but in the header of the file gives you a
> url to reproduce that file. It will be in the next version of the
> downloader.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Jon Hancock <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I have a working library now.  thanks.  The problem is, I can't repeat
> > the process of creating a lib with the same set of dependencies.  I
> > think this is really the heart of the problem with the online builder
> > tools:  if I get something that works for me, how do I get a refreshed
> > version of the same thing in the future?
>
> > I had to download various forms of clientcide and mootools-core many
> > time before I ended up with a version that had the right
> > dependencies.  So how do I repeat this task, for example when I'm
> > ready to have a minimized version or update to a bug fix release?
>
> > How about this idea: have the dependency tool generate a config file
> > or long url which describes the build.  Force the end user to use this
> > config and/or url to download the js.  This process will leave a
> > readable, re-usable legacy artifact for the end user.
>
> > thanks, Jon
>
> > On Sep 10, 12:30 am, Aaron Newton <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi Jon,
> > > The dbug script (which I authored) has no dependencies. You can download
> > it
> > > and run it on its own if you like. You can download the MooTools library
> > > from the mootools download page and then download additional scripts
> > (from
> > > MooTools More or from the Clientcide libraries). If you do this, you'll
> > have
> > > more than one script to include; -core, -more and/or the Clientcide
> > > libraries.
>
> > > The Clientcide builder gives you the option of building a single file
> > with
> > > the things you need. So you can download all of -core, and then specific
> > > plugins you need from -more and the Clientcide libs and get a single js
> > > file.
>
> > > As for all of this being too complex, we've tried our best to make this
> > as
> > > simple and usable as we can. Is there something specific that you're
> > having
> > > problems with?
>
> > > Looking at the error that you get with dbug, I don't think the problem is
> > > with dbug (as, again, it has no dependencies). Your example script uses
> > > domready (note that dbug.log doesn't interact with the DOM, so you don't
> > > need to wait for it to log things), so if your clientcide download only
> > > included dbug, and you didn't also include the MooTools -core (or at
> > least
> > > DomReady from it), then you'd get an error.
>
> > > Can you post your test online?
>
> > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Jon Hancock <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > As a new user, I'm having difficulty getting a working mootools lib.
> > > > As near as I can tell, the online build tools are too complex.  I
> > > > download an uncompressed mootools-1.2.3-core-nc.js and head over to
> > > >http://www.clientcide.com/jstoget the dbug script.  Wow this page
> > > > has way too many options.  I've tried many different ways of getting a
> > > > dbug script as well as a script that includes tons of stuff I don't
> > > > need right now, which is fine for my dev purposes.  It downloads as
> > > > clientcide-trunk-2.1.0.js.  Do I need mootools more stuff?  I've tried
> > > > multiple ways of building this lib as well.  This is way too complex
> > > > for someone wanting to go from the online tutorials to playing with
> > > > their own code.
>
> > > > When I try something simple like a header script:
>
> > > >  window.addEvent('domready', function(){
> > > >   dbug.log("HELLO")
> > > >  });
>
> > > > All I get is a console error in firegub:
> > > > fn is undefined
>
> >http://localhost:4000/javascripts/clientcide-trunk-2.1.0.js?090915380490
> > > > Line 2080
>
> > > > Any advice for a noob?
>
> > > > thanks, Jon

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