Interestingly... When I was new to JS frameworks it came down to jQuery or Mootools and I read Aaron's famous comparison between the two, and many factors of what he said swung me to Mootools. One of those factors was the elitism! it's deeper than that though... it's because I felt that I wanted to work with a framework that has principles, is pure, and might be harder to learn but can do more. I could be wrong here, but I see jQuery as a language of nifty one-liners that get your website to do flick-flacks. That's awesome, but I wanted to invest my time once in a framework that on one hand could do awesome animations, but on the next project could successfully handle all sorts of data presentation widgets including implementing many of the design patterns that are well known in Java. Javascript, but then Mootools, opens up (and maybe closes) a few new patterns. I wanted to know that my foundation was strong and that I'm not just using a framework of fancy tricks with no real substance. I think the word "elitist" just gave me a little more confidence. I come from a background of Google Web Toolkit, so it's great to know that there are people in the Mootools camp who are just as hardcore as the guys behind GWT.
On Aug 1, 9:26 pm, Aaron Newton <[email protected]> wrote: > Years ago (around 2006) MooTools had a forum hosted on mootools.net. This > forum was originally for people to talk about building the framework as the > framework was still in beta. The people talking there were mostly > experienced JS developers. As the framework grew more popular, users started > showing up asking for help *using *the framework. On a daily basis we'd get > posts to the effect that "Accordion doesn't work" from JS novices. At first > these people were helped but over time a few members grew exasperated and > where less than helpful. As this problem grew worse we moved the forums to > Google groups, moved the developer discussions to a different forum, and > things generally improved. When Piotr built jsfiddle for the community, > things got exponentially more friendly, as now the response to "Accordion > doesn't work" isn't "it does, you're just doing it wrong" is "show me on > jsfiddle and I'll help you fix it." That early 2006-ish reputation is the > one that persists, despite all the friendly people here. I don't think I've > had to moderate a single comment on these boards in the last 4 years or > more. > > -a > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Philip Thompson > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Aaron Newton <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Simply be better than everyone else.... =D > > >> lulz. the irony. > > > Actually, I'm more curious, "who/what community" says that Mootoolers are > > snobs? > > > ~Philip > > > -- > >http://lonestarlightandsound.com/
