My feelings exactly Sue.  While being humorous which
is something I can appreciate.  I don't think joking
about bigotry goes over quite well now.  First off,
it's quite off topic.  Secondly, why joke about
bigotry?  If I joked about blacks, hispanics, asians,
southerners, Australians, British, Texans..., that
would be rude, not on topic, and hurtful.  Why bother?
 Got any better jokes?  I think David's humorous
answer to this is commendable.  But why start?

Got a sense of humor but not about bigotry,
Toochis

--- Susan Heim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey Gang,
>   Happy New Year !!  I have been away from my
> computer for a few days and am glad I came in on the
> end of this "gay" thread.  That way I got to read a
> whole bevy of posts before I "foolishly" jump into
> the brew!  One thing does amaze me, though,  after
> all these years of David posting, that so many of
> you just don't get his sense of humor. Having known
> David for many years and consider him a good friend
> in the "outside" world, I know that there was no
> offense meant in asking "are you gay?" I'm sure it
> was more of a rhetorical question that one meant to
> actually take a census. He is truly one of the most
> honest (from his background) and kind (from his
> wife) people I have ever known. Always there when
> you need him.
>
>  I didn't find the posts in response to Brokeback
> Mountain that unusual. After all, we here on the
> group are just a microcosm of the real world and
> that's how the real world is, split in their views
> of many subjects, not just homosexuality. I'm sure
> what makes it difficult here is when you have so
> much in common with fellow members on a regular
> basis and then some can have such harsh views that,
> while I'm not sure are meant to, can hurt feelings,
> especially if you are gay. Evan spoke of living in a
> very tolerant community and taking it for granted.
> I'm sure many of the people on this group do not
> live in a "tolerant" community. That was evidenced
> by the last election. So it's probably difficult to
> hear certain comments when you have come to feel
> "comfortable" in a group.
>
> While certain comments are sad to me, I am heartened
> by many of the comments of tolerance and support I
> did hear especially from guys like JR and Bruce, who
> I consider good men. I do believe in to each his
> own. While I may disagree with some people view's on
> many topics, I support your right to have those
> views. The problem I have is that some of those
> views propagate violence. Andy mentioned that his
> father brought him up to kiss ladies and not gents.
> That's fine, but what would have happened if Andy
> was born gay. Would he have hidden his feelings or
> would he have had an understanding enough father to
> love and accept him whatever his orientation?  I
> have had many a gay friend who were ostracized by
> their family and friends once their homosexuality
> was out in the open. It's no wonder, as someone
> said, that so many gay men live straight lives
> because they fear the ramifications of coming out.
> Who wouldn't?
>
> So.........whatever your views..........have a
> wonderful and safe new year. Good health to you all
> and, more than anything, happiness and love wherever
> you can find it.
>
> Sue Heim
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Jim Episale<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   To:
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>   Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 9:40 AM
>   Subject: Re: [MOPO] No gay lists !!!
>
>
>   David
>   no offense taken here thought provoking and well
> written as usual
>   jim
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> David
>   Kusumoto
>   Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 11:41 AM
>   To:
>
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>   Subject: Re: [MOPO] No gay lists !!!
>
>
>   OK, so I've been taken to the woodshed.  Notes
> subsequent to my purposely
>   provocative subject line, "Are You Gay?" I hoped
> clarified the proper
>   context of my query, half in jest, as to its
> relevance when discussing films
>   w/themes covering territory familiar to some, but
> not to all.  You know,
>   I've been on this list since the 1990s and tangent
> comments related to film
>   at the occasional exclusion of movie posters have
> always been OK.  So for
>   the very few who took my comments as having the
> moral equivalence of a
>   McCarthy witch-hunt, geez, if I have to explain
> they weren't, it's obvious
>   some thought I slipped off the steering wheel and
> crashed into the trash
>   heap...
>
>   koose!
>
>   ----Original Message Follows----
>
>   From: JR
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>   Reply-To: JR
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>   To:
>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>   Subject: No gay lists !!!
>   Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 10:53:46 -0500
>
>   Aw, c'mon now, people... this *is* a movie poster
> list. Sure, occasionally
>   we go a bit off track talking about a movie, but
> at least they are called
>   "movie" posters... This subject has ABSOLUTELY NO
> PLACE on MOPO and, David,
>   that you of all people should call for a show on
> hands about the subject
>   here... really.
>
>   -- JR
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