Haven't been to many, but the last sci-fi convention I was at (yes, as a dealer) a couple of years ago, the trekkies had been displaced by Lord of the Rings freaks in hobbit outfits, with a sprinkling of Stargate types in military gear, a Vader and a couple of Imperial Stormtroopers (it was a small convention). Not a single pair of pointy ears anywhere in sight.
I thought the Star Trek phenomenon was pretty much over. Maybe this auction will breathe new life into it. Hope not. Live long and prosper, Dave Posteropolis www.posteropolis.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Halegua Comic Art" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] A HUGE AUCTION ON THE HORIZON SET PHASERS TO STUN Phil, being in New York during the 60's-84, I was fortunate enough (?) to go to the first Star Trek conventions ever and the best ones ever as well. Of course I was a dealer at all of them and from the dealer perspective - they changed from the 1970 convention to the mid/late 1970's cons where the fans took on a different form. At the 1970 convention, the fans were what we called "freaks" - or in other words, Hippies mostly (I was becoming one, but in 1970 I was only 13). It was the first time that an older woman (19) wanted to mess around with me. She had great *tits*. Anyway, by the middle seventies what happened is the fans all became real freaks, and I dont mean hippies. True weirdos who wondered what kind of babies Kirk had with Yeoman Janice Rand - but were really wondering. I remember standing next to a fan who was getting an autograph from George Takei ( 4 of my friends and I had dinner with him one night. Can you believe he would hang with us?) and the fan asked him "if I could see Zulu's driver's license, how old would he be?" I remember the Saturday Night Live skit with William Shatner and all the idiot questions he was getting from the fans at a show run by Creation con guys and I have to say, these questions were exactly the kind of things these weirdos asked. "Trekkies" are one strange bunch Rich=========================== At 02:07 AM 7/6/2006, Phil Edwards Cinema Arts wrote: >A three day STAR TREK convention I attended in >England in the late 1970s (as a dealer) remains >one of the truly great surreal events of my working life. > >The guy at the table next to me, selling stapled >xerox copies of numerous fanzines containing >erotic tales of couplings between Kirk and Spock made an absolute fortune. > >That was where I discovered for the first time >the real underbelly of the STAR TREK fandom universe. > >Phil > > > >Helmut Hamm wrote: > >>Christie's will produce a two-volume catalog, >>priced at $90, and there's a special for all >>you hardcore-trekkies out there: $500 will get >>you a special limited edition box set. Both available in August. >> >>Helmut >> >> >>>*It's an Auction, Jim, but Not as We Know It* >> >>>By JAMES BARRON >>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/james_barro n/index.html?inline=nyt-per> >> >>>The stuff of "Star Trek" < uniforms, >>>communicators and other props, including >>>pointy rubber ears < has boldly gone to a >>>place where the intrepid crew never took the Enterprise: the Bronx. >> >>>In a windowless warehouse in Crotona Park >>>East, boxes of "Star Trek" memorabilia that >>>were shipped from the part of the galaxy known >>>as Hollywood are being cataloged and >>>photographed. The catalogers and photographers >>>work for Christie's, the auction house that >>>more often handles impressionists and old masters. >> >>>The trove will be sold for dollars. Not Federation credits. >> >>>So, hanging on one coat rack in the warehouse >>>are Klingon costumes. On another are the >>>Enterprise crew's uniforms, even William >>>Shatner's uniform. "It's a great" < long pause >>>< "leisure suit," said Cathy Elkies, the >>>Christie's official overseeing the sale. >> >>>"Star Trek" fans are passionate. They attend >>>conventions. They know "Star Trek V: The Final >>>Frontier" and "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered >>>Country." They correct dumb mistakes, no >>>matter how obscure, in any articles having >>>anything to do with "Star Trek." They take the >>>idea of being a fan to extremes, and proudly >>>so. And they are not Christie's usual crowd. >>>No one dressed as a Klingon was in attendance >>>when Christie's sold the dress Marilyn Monroe >>>wore when she sashayed into Madison Square >>>Garden and sang "Happy Birthday" to President >>>John F. Kennedy. >>><http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/john_fitzge rald_kennedy/index.html?inline=nyt-per> >> >>>So when Christie's marketers asked Ms. Elkies >>>who was the intended audience for the sale, >>>which is scheduled for Oct. 5-7, she did not >>>have a ready answer. "I had to say, I really don't know," she said. >> >>>That is partly because so few actual props >>>from the various television series and films >>>have been sold before. The items in the sale >>>had been stored in warehouses, some since the >>>original 1960's television series went off the >>>air. But after the cancellation of the UPN >>>prequel "Star Trek: Enterprise" last year, >>>Paramount decided to lighten its holdings. >> >>>Now Christie's is preparing descriptions for >>>each item < descriptions that are decidedly >>>different from the ones usually found in Christie's catalogs. >> >>>Consider this one, for a pair of items that >>>Christie's expects to sell for $1,000 to >>>$1,500: "Two tribbles of imitation fur stuffed >>>with foam rubber, one gray and black, the other white, gray and brown." >> >>>Tribbles were small life forms that reproduced >>>at remarkable rates, according to >>>Memory-Alpha.org, one of many sites on the Web >>>devoted to "Star Trek." Christie's says this >>>pair was used in the "Deep Space Nine" episode >>>"Trials and Tribble-ations" and also in a >>>"Star Trek: Enterprise" episode. <http://memory-alpha.org/> >> >>>Ms. Elkies said she was approaching the sale >>>in "a democratic way" < meaning, she >>>explained, "We are pricing it so there will be >>>something for everyone." She said there would >>>be items with estimated prices of $200 or so. >> >>>But the estimates on some items are far >>>higher. Christie's expects to sell a model of >>>the Starship Enterprise-A, made from a plastic >>>hobby kit and used on "Star Trek VI: The >>>Undiscovered Country" in 1991, for $15,000 to >>>$25,000. According to the Memory-Alpha site, >>>the Enterprise-A had made its debut in "Star >>>Trek IV: The Voyage Home" and had gone on a >>>surprisingly speedy journey to the center of >>>the galaxy in "Star Trek V: The Final Frontier." >> >>>Christie's also has a model of a Work Bee, >>>which, according to Memory-Alpha, was "a small >>>utility craft in use by the Federation since >>>the mid-23rd century." Ms. Elkies said this >>>one was used in the drydock sequences in "Star >>>Trek: The Motion Picture" and also in the main >>>title sequence of "Deep Space Nine." >>>Christie's estimates that it will sell for $6,000 to $8,000 at the auction. >> >>> >>>Ms. Elkies said she was impressed by the >>>craftsmanship of the costumes and props. "If >>>you see something on TV, you don't think >>>there's a backside to it," she said. "But you >>>see these things and you realize how much time >>>and labor went into each object." >> >>>The Starfleet officer Worf's silver rifle >>>"almost looks like an Uzi," Ms. Elkies said, >>>lifting it off the shelf, "and it's heavy." >> >>>And then there was the Xindi alien in the >>>stasis chamber from the series "Enterprise." >>>The stasis chamber was a clear plastic >>>cylinder. The Xindi alien was a yellow figure >>>about the size of a 5-year-old child, with >>>wires attached to places that, on a human, >>>would be painful if attached without anesthetic. >> >>>Ms. Elkies was not a major "Star Trek" fan >>>before she started to organize the sale. She >>>got her baptism in "Star Trek" mania when she >>>went to a convention in Germany in May. "The >>>funny part was, I couldn't always tell if it >>>was German or Klingon that they were speaking," she said. >> >>>At 41, she was a small child when "Star Trek" >>>originally went on the air. "I think it was so >>>different than anything else that was on," she >>>said. "Remember, we had five channels back >>>then, so we weren't inundated with programming >>>the way we are now. It was so original, it was >>>so different, it was gripping, there was >>>always something that hooked you in < and Captain Kirk was very cute." >> >>> >>>freeman fisher >>>8601 west knoll drive #7 >>>west hollywood, ca >>>90069 >> >>>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >> >>>___________________________________________________________________ >> >>>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >> >>>Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >> >>>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >> >> >> >>Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >> >>___________________________________________________________________ >> >>How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >> >>Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >> >>The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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