Brek & everyone else..
In response to Dave Lieberman's inquiry yesterday I've been trying to
reach Frank Santos. He did email me back on 8/30 when I queried him
to Dave L's initial call to me about the posters he sent off to Frank.
Frank wrote me that he had a "cardiac catheterization and two stents
implanted in my heart" and that he would contact everyone who was
still waiting for work to be done. I do know Frank's heart troubles
to be true by the way via a mutual friend.
So right now I am waiting for Frank to email me back from yesterday's letter.
I will say absolutely that of course, Frank's lack of communication
certainly leaves something to be desired & that is an issue he will
have to resolve with me before he will be allowed to sell any more
services on MPB. Something that I want you all to note - unlike eBay,
MPB does not have any mechanism to show if he is suspended - a
feature we plan on adding to a future software upgrade to the site -
but he is suspended and will not be able to list any more auctions
until all the issues mentioned in Brek & Dave's emails, however there
is something specific I wish to point out....
MoviePosterBid is an "open source" auction site . Anyone can sell on
MPB - not just myself, and while I can certainly control the results
of my auctions (and I have been late also, but always in contact), I
have as much control over what happens with any seller on
MoviePosterBid as eBay has over their sellers and it is unfair to
blame MoviePosterBid for anything that happens with sellers other
than my own sales as a seller unless we have been negligent in
managing the site - which certainly cannot be said here . If someone
chooses to use eBay, Yahoo, Amazon, Craig's List, MPB or any other
open source auction site as a way to steal from
buyers, administration only has so many options open to use as
recourse against these sellers. That does not mean we will not be
trying to get this issue resolved, however - if Frank decides to move
to Bermuda ..... then both MPB & eBay (where he has obviously had
further issues) can ultimately only suspend that member.as any kind of penalty.
We will be trying to get this issue resolved - QUICKLY, but as JR
pointed out - if Frank won't contact me either, ..well, he's in New
Jersey and I'm in Las Vegas. I can't just drive over to his place.
But I will be in NYC in November, so if the issues have not been
resolved - possibly I may see him at Morrie Everett's show
One more thing. Of course Todd is ultimately correct that a
linenbacker should have known reputation. I have known of Frank
Santos as a linenbacker from seeing a seller who would bring Frank's
stuff to Cinevent, and also because I have gotten product from him.
His work was good enough for me, I was going to send him 200 posters
for an all linenbacked auction, and as long as he fulfills his
business with Dave & Brek (I don't know anyone else with issues) I'm
sure he will be doing my work for that auction.
One thing this episode may have instituted.. I am going to chat with
my representative at Collectibles Insurance Agency and see if they
can offer MoviePosterBid a policy that would insure buyers against
seller fraud. Of course MPB would have to charge buyers a small fee
for each transaction that they would want protection for at the time
of sale. But I do think it is something that can be handled and I'm
sure it can written to handle the value of the merchandise that is
sent to a linenbacker for instance aside from the cost of the
linenbacking which is all eBay would cover if you paid for their
insurance coverage
In any case, I will be trying to contact Frank or waiting for him to
contact me so this can be resolved
thanks
Rich=========================
Rich===========================
At 09:12 PM 9/11/2006, Brek Anderson wrote:
Kirby and Todd,
I did get some info and was told on MOPO or by MPB this was a long time
restorer.
And no one had had a problem with his work in the past. I just don't think
it will be good for MPB.com to have a major scam in the first big auction.
I would not have used this company if it hadn't been for the hype of the MPB
auction. I know better now, but I don't think I will use MPB for a few years
till there are some track records. Vintage Cinemart is still listed, as best
I can tell, an active member on MPB. I hope that means there is a chance.
Thanks,
Brek
-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirby
McDaniel
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help please, VINTAGE CINEMART, have they vanished???
I have to absolutely echo what Todd is saying here.
Just because someone says that they are a restorer
doesn't mean that they should be trusted with
expensive and/or rare posters. Restorers should
be fully insured and should have otherwise earned people's trust.
Kirby McDaniel
On Sep 11, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Todd Feiertag wrote:
> Brek,
>
> I feel very bad for you and I completely empathize with your
> heightened
> frustration in this matter but what I don't understand is how
> someone can
> trust thousands of dollars worth of posters with a restorer who
> doesn't have
> a proven track record.
>
> I'm not just talking about you as there have been many other
> collectors
> which have lost a lot of hard earned money to several different
> "fly by
> night" restorers over the years. I don't like seeing anyone ripped
> off and
> I hope you get this resolved in a timely fashion, but next time,
> try using
> of the restorers who have been around for years. Your less likely
> to have
> these problems.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Best,
> Todd Feiertag/Poster City
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brek Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help please, VINTAGE CINEMART, have they
> vanished???
>
>
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I have had only a couple of responses as well. I sent six valuable
>> posters
>> for linen backing via winning MBP auction. I was told by Frank via
>> email
>> about 3 weeks after an email that he had received them, but had
>> yet to
>> review what needs to be done. Again the health issue was the limiting
>> factor. He said he had just got out of the hospital and was going
>> to be
> back
>> in the workshop within a week. That was over a month ago and no more
>> response. I hope all is well, but the no response is very
>> concerning. It
>> doesn't leave me with allot of confidence in MPB vrs. Ebay. I have
>> had
>> thousands of buys and sells on eBay with no problem. I was
>> banking on the
>> MPB reputation based on how much it had been hyped on MOPO. Now I
>> am out
> the
>> money spent (over $200) as well as $1000's of dollars worth of
>> posters
> that
>> I don't know if I will get back. At least with eBay I could find
>> if the
>> seller was still viable or active and could have at least had a track
> record
>> before sending off my posters. I think MPB ought to step in and
>> find out
>> what is going on and how we can get our posters done and back or
>> get the
>> posters and money back. I no longer have confidence to bid on MBP
>> unless
>> this is resolved.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brek
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> Richard
>> Del Belso
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:17 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Help please, VINTAGE CINEMART, have they
>> vanished???
>>
>> David:
>> this is a MoPoer's nightmare. i wish i could help you but I don't
>> have any
>> more info about these people than you do. all I know is that I
>> have bought
>> things from them in the past, and have communicated with them by
>> e-mail...always with positive results. As a matter of fact, i was
>> going to
>> do just what you did when i saw their offer on MoviePosterBid .com
>> i hope this incident ends well for you...and for them.
>> Richard
>>
>> <html><div><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive">Richard Del
>> Belso</FONT></div></html>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: David Lieberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [MOPO] Help please, VINTAGE CINEMART, have they vanished???
>>> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 12:10:59 EDT
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To all mopo'rs
>>>
>>> The last thing I want to do is bring this public. I have been
>>> extremely
>>> patient as I have been told Frank Santos has been having health
> problems.
>>> I do
>>> not know him personally but I am not heartless and I can
>>> understand what
>>> he is
>>> going through. I have been trying to get this straightened out
>>> on my own
>>> now
>>> for over two weeks with no luck.
>>>
>>> I have not heard from them. I have sent numerous emails that have
>>> not
> been
>>> responded to. I use AOL, and they do too so I'm sure they are
>>> receiving
> my
>>> emails. It has been over a month and all I received was a brief
>>> email
> with
>>
>>> very
>>> little info.. And that was over a week ago.
>>>
>>> I have sent them three very valuable posters for linen backing. I
>>> won a
>>> linen backing auction from them on movie poster bid.
>>>
>>> I need one of them back desperately for a client.
>>>
>>> I have asked him repeatedly through email for a phone number, no
> response.
>>>
>>> Why would he refuse to give me a phone number?
>>>
>>> I finally tracked down a phone number. I have called it for 3
>>> days now
> and
>>> it is a constant busy signal.
>>>
>>> In my book, non communication with clients is just plain
>>> inexcusable.
>>>
>>> I hate to assume the worst and I really hope he is ok and there
>>> is a
>>> logical
>>> explanation.
>>>
>>> If anybody has any way of contacting him please let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> David Lieberman
>>> CineMasterpieces
>>> 602 309 0500
>>>
>>>
>>>
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