Hey folks

I think I needed to make a further response to the query by Glenn Taranto

when I was saying that the writers/stagehands strike was affecting sales I was being totally humorous the reality is that evenj if I have any customers in those fields, I don't know it

I'm kind of surprised that  afew folks actually thought I was serious

I will say that part of the rest of that post was serious though

Heritage's general customer base for signature auctions will be made of more affluent buyers than other sellers. The simple fact is that a guy who buys a $10,000 or $334,000 poster is generally un-affected by economics, however the buyers in the $10 to $500 range are seriously affected by economics and in a slow economy make fewer purchases and at lower price levels

Someone making $1,000,000 a year can afford whatever he wants

someone making $30,000 a year is another story. Every $500 extra cost for food, fuel etc this buyer has definitely takes away from his/her collecting tastes and can be the difference between participation and non-participation in their hobbying

Right now we do indeed have economic issues in the USA that are deleterious to the collecting habits of those under the $50,000 income mark (depending on geographic location. a collector in Iowa has a different threshold than a collector making the same money in New York). For those who do not know, 90% of the USA population makes less than $50K and 50% makes less than $25K.

A fuel surge for instance that costs an extra $500 a year can seem like an insurmountable obstacle to those at the lower end of income while it doesn't even register as a blip to someone making $100,000 and isn't even a mosquito bite to those making more than that.

Heritage's signature auctions are not fodder for those at the lower end and therefore only represent a specific portion of the market

when you get to the lower end of the market, you are more likely to see the effects of economic ham-stringing most especially during times like this when the US dollar is at an all time historic low. Even the Australian dollar shows how good it is for non-US buyers. (the Australian dollar has traditionally traded at a 2 for 1 against the US dollar. Now it is almost even with the dollar). One Aussie buyer whose name I won't mention (hey it's Ari) constantly wins a dozen or more items each week in my auctions for 99 cents and even that dirt cheap item is costing him half of what it would have in 2005. He's winning these items at 49 cents !!!! That nameless buyer (Ari) is making a killing!!

Rich====================


At 10:34 PM 11/19/2007, Ron Moore wrote:
Hi Glenn and Rich!

I find things to be a bit different. While I do have a
number of clients in the entertainment industry, I
believe the vast majority of collectors are not in the
biz but are just fans of movies. So although Rich's
business may have been affected by the strike, mine
certainly hasn't.

Also, as far as Heritage goes, I think Rich may be
exaggerating slightly about who their clientele are.
While everyone focuses on the handfull of posters that
sold for substantial amounts of money- which makes it
easy to say that they cater to the wealthy- you have
to remember that there were over 1300 lots in the sale
with something for everyone. All various genres and
price ranges were represented. I know a number of
people that won items and they are regular folks with
regular jobs. They would not be considered
super-wealthy and some of the items that were sold
were true bargains.

I don't think the economy has truly affected our hobby
yet. And just to go one step further, I've also
noticed over the years that when we have had some
recessions (like back in 1986 or so), people still
wanted their "toys". They may have been late on their
rent, but they had to have their posters. Maybe the
pleasure their collectibles brought took their minds
off of their troubles for a short while.

Ron Moore
Cinema Icons


--- Glenn Taranto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Richard -
>
> I have often wondered how much of the hobby was tied
> to entertainment professionals as opposed to rich
> investors or civilians who may want a poster or two
> for fun.
>
> I think you've provided me with the answer.
>
> Glenn
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Richard Halegua Comic Art
>   To: Glenn Taranto ; [email protected]
>   Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:03 PM
>   Subject: Re: [MOPO] Economy affecting the dealers?
>
>
>   Glenn
>
>   when the Hollywood writer's strike & then the
> Broadway stagehands
>   strike began.. all business for us dried up like a
> grape in the sun
>
>   I hope they get back to work soon so we can all
> eat
>
>   of course ona serious side..
>   what Heritage did is to a wealthy market and does
> not reflect anything
>
>   the rest of the market is where you see truth and
> if 90% of the
>   people aren't making enough money.. well
> collectibles are certainly
>   at the bottom of the shopping list
>
>   Rich========
>
>
>   At 05:35 PM 11/19/2007, Glenn Taranto wrote:
>   >I've been hearing that the economy is starting to
> affect eBay.  The
>   >Heritage auction seems to have seen some above
> average prices.  Are
>   >people just sick of eBay or have any of the
> dealers on the list also
>   >seen signs of slowing?
>   >
>   >Glenn T.
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