Let me just add one thing here - and this comes from years of selling
high-end audio equipment.
After enough exposure to higher standards of performance, it will not
only be the "real pro"s who
can tell the difference.
This has been proven to me again and again with audio equipment.
I have a Mark Levinson CD player. It cost an unholy amount of money,
but there are players that cost a hell of lot more than it.
If you put it up against a $79 player and run a test for an
inexperienced
but nonetheless intelligent listener with good hearing and with
commensurately
good equipment - amp, speakers and so on, the chances are
that listener will say initially "I can't tell too much of a
difference." But
if you let that listener live with a Mark Levinson (or any of several
serious
CD players -- and believe me, they get VERY serious) for six months, and
then you switch them back to the $179.00 player, most of them will
say TURN THAT OFF!
Why?
Because it's all about nuance. There is a universe of difference
in nuance. This is especially true about DIGITAL audio and
video.
This gets into areas which are really too far off topic for
this list, and there is such a thing as diminishing returns.
My point is that seeing and hearing quality is a learned
experience - providing that quality equipment is used
throughout a system.
Kirby McDaniel
www.movieart.net
On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:26 AM, Rubenstein, Ira wrote:
Didn't send my post to the whole group.
Sorry,
Ira
OK -- So I just reread the original post. You wanted info on
DVD Recorders not about Blu Ray vs HD....
I would say that if you have a Blu-Ray system, than yes you should
get the recorder, but ONLY if you are watching your TV shows in
HD. Even then, all the TV networks are not broadcasting in true
HD. 1080p. It is more like 720p. Only the Blu-Ray physical disk
can deliver content in 1080p. So if you are taping HD content
at 720, it will look great. But it won't be the true
experience. But only a real pro will tell the difference.
My suggestion would be to wait on the DVD recorder ones for
awhile. Let the price drop.
Now ---- Back to my other long post about the war.....
Ira
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
As someone who fought the Blu-Ray/ HD DVD battle and won, here is
my advice. : )
Yes the war is over. Walmart, NETFLIX, Best Buy have all dropped
HD DVD. Toshiba has thrown in the towel. It's over. Anyone
saying it isn't is kidding themselves. The big question is
will it matter in the end anyway. Some people argue that people
will start downloading or via PPV/on demand on home tv in HD soon
enough. Who needs physical disks. Most people over 25 still want
a physical disk. But like the Music Industry, the same thing
will happen in the film industry. (Example, in Korea, where
Bandwidth is FAR FASTER than here in the US, the film industry has
a very VERY small DVD business. It's all piracy via online
sharing of movies.) Europe also has a high rate of piracy
because of the broad based usage of the DIVX codec in all DVD
players. (Think MP3 for movies instead of music and that is DIVX).
Anyway, enough depression about my future. It will be awhile,
but believe me the DVD business will come crashing to it's knees.
So if you want a Blu-Ray player, you should get the PS3. Why?
Because not only is it the cheapest one out there. But it is also
the most POWERFUL. You see, in the near future with Blu-Ray
Profile 2.0, which is a IP Enabled Networked player. You will
start to have content downloaded that is associated with the Blu-
Ray Disc. So say you pop in Spider-man 1, and Spider-man 4 is
about to come out. You will have the new trailer for Spider--man
4 pushed to your Blu-Ray player. You may also get some other
stuff from Spider-Man 4. Or maybe there is a NEW director's
commentary on Spider-Man 1, that also can be pushed down. Or
deleted scenes, you get the idea. No more will putting in an old
disc make you feel you are stuck in time because you are seeing
trailers from when the disc was released. You will see trailers
based on WHEN you play the disc. And more than likely, what other
type of films do you already like to watch.
On the CLOSE ENCOUNTERS BD Disk, you actually have all 3 versions
of the film. You can pick and choose as you are watching it what
version to watch. On most BD Disks you can book mark your
favorite scenes of that disk and the Blu-Ray player REMEMBERS them
all.
There are also going to be multiplayer games. Trivia games to
play against your friends as you watch the movie. You will be
able to sync up playing the movie, etc... I am sure there will
Internet applications that will feed off of your player, store you
library of what you last played, share with friends, etc....
So all this new stuff that is coming takes IP Enabled Machine,
Computer Processing Power, Memory and Hard Disk Storage. Something
the PlayStation 3 has. I believe there are reviews in Audio and
Video magazines that say the PS3 has the best image/sound because
of the processing.
Lastly, the PS3 is UPDATEABLE via the network. Profile 2.0,
will lead to 3.0 and 4.0 down the road. You don't want to get
stuck with a machine that can't update because it doesn't have the
processing power, memory or storage. The new 2.0 profile
machines coming out this summer will have some of this. But none
will be greater than the Playstation 3.
You should spend the extra money on the PlayStation 3 DVD Remote.
That way you don't have to use the Game Control to Pause, Play,
etc....
Finally, pick up a game. You will enjoy yourself. I highly
recommend Guitar Hero or Rock Band. There are other games out
there, but it all depends on your speed and what you like to do.
Good luck,
Ira
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From: MoPo List on behalf of Michael B
Sent: Sat 3/1/2008 8:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [MOPO] DVD RECORDERS -- BLUE RAY
i want to buy a DVD recorder. my first.
they are cheaper than 100.00 BUT the Blue Ray technology is closer
to 700.00
since i would be recording primarily the classics of the 40s and
50s off TMC channel etc...... is the extra blue technology worth
it????
of course, i really do want that HI DEF and GREAT SURROUND when i
record the habdful of current stuff.
my bose surround system is awesome.......you can hear the sound
effects in china when i watch surround sound effects
programming......... it would be a shame to stifle that system!!!
COMMENTS ??? RECOMMENDATION ????
michael
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