And the real use of a proof, is that it can be checked by all the people needed 
to check that all colours are correct, all spelling is correct, all contractual 
placements of names and font sizes are correct..... all the proofs I received 
for posters I had designed for both theatrical and video release in Australia 
(in the late 80s/early 90s) and proofs of commissioned articles/publications 
were always on better stock than the finished job once the proof was signed off 
as correct.

Untrimmed one sheets (or other posters) with the colour blocks for matching and 
registration puposes (as Tom points out correctly in the pre-digital age when 
separation films were used and plates made) are just that... it can be 20 or 
200 out of the press while final colour diddling can be done and checked.

Calling untrimmed one sheets " proofs" just makes them sound better. Most real 
proofs are going to be residing in studio/distributor vaults (if they bothered 
to keep them at all).

Phil

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 20:20:42 -0700, allen day wrote
>

> Howdy,
>  
> The answer to your question is ... yes and no.
>  
> In the printing department, printers pull them from the machines for future 
> samples, checks on color registration, ink / print quality, and overall 
> quality assurance / control.
>  
> In the cutting department, cutters pull them because they keep samples of all 
> posters, BTW ... the cutting department is every printing facility just 
> happens to be close to the back door .. I'm not sure why.  
>  
> ad
> 
> --- On Mon, 6/9/08, Douglas Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Douglas Ball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [MOPO] Proof or just untrimmed???
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, June 9, 2008, 9:05 PM
> 
> 
> Jeff Potokar kind of asked the difference of the two when describing what you 
> call a poster that still has the printers color chart on the side of the 
> poster. In the 7 years on MOPO, I don't think anyone has addressed this issue.
> Bruce, Dave Lieberman, Dan Richard, and others...in listings call them 
> printers proofs, but as Jeff suggest, aren't they just untrimmed posters?
>  
> Is there a difference? 
>  
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