and I can hear Scott
Burns belching up acid all the way here in San Diego.<<<<
I wondered what the hell that noise was.
In Australia, where we have considerably different laws in terms of
possession of fire arms, we also know that if the Bad Guys want to get guns,
they will get guns.
And we look on at the US and see a country where every man has the right to
bear arms (has that been changed in the Consitution to be less sexist... is
it now every person has the right to bear arms... and is there an age limit
within the Constitution? Legit questions.
Anyway, we look on and can only be thankful that it's not the other way
around and that bears can be armed.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. People kill people with guns if
they have guns or can get guns freely.
Otherwise they bore them to death with discussions about whether people
should have the right to bear arms.
It's one of those questions that has two sides, and you are either on one
side or the other side. It's like gay marriage. You are either on one side
or the other side, and it's quite difficult to convince people to change
they way they think.
It's fruitless, like one of those Fruity Muesli Bars you can buy in health
food stores.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: "jbirddouglass" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Dinner with John Charles Carter
Hi Rod....
While I wholeheartedly agree with you on this issue, I seriously question
putting it up on the MOPO website. I am bombarded night and day with
emails regarding social and political issues from my liberal and
conservative friends alike (I am a total commie pinko liberal, by the
way) and none of them is likely to change my mind about anything I already
believe in. I like MOPO for its pure unspoiled geekiness; where else can I
learn about the best way to get high off of Bestine, the dangers of minty
white inserts, or how to avoid getting the runs from handling too many
Mexican lobby cards?
Generally, religion and politics on MOPO result in annoying flame wars, my
hand cramps up from hitting the delete button, and I can hear Scott Burns
belching up acid all the way here in San Diego.
I need a break from the world's heaviosity, and MOPO is one of those
places I can go and let my inner dweeb run free.
Enough already.
Greg Douglass
rodxmorgan wrote:
Perhaps he could spin this report into a tale of patriotism...
ATLANTA: The Supreme Court’s landmark ruling on gun ownership last week
focused on citizens' ability to defend themselves from intruders in their
homes. But research shows that surprisingly often, gun owners use the
weapons on themselves.
Suicides accounted for 55% of the nation's nearly 31,000 firearm deaths
in 2005, the most recent year for which statistics are available from the
centers for disease control and prevention.
There was nothing unique about that year — gun-related suicides have
outnumbered firearm homicides and accidents for 20 of the last 25 years.
In 2005, homicides accounted for 40% of gun deaths. Accidents accounted
for 3%. The remaining 2% included legal killings, such as when police do
the shooting and cases that involve undetermined intent.
Public-health researchers have concluded that in homes where guns are
present, the likelihood that someone in the home will die from suicide or
homicide is much greater.
Studies have also shown that homes in which a suicide occurred were three
to five times more likely to have a gun present than households that did
not experience a suicide, even after accounting for other risk factors.
In a 5-4 decision, the high court struck down a handgun ban enacted in
the District of Columbia in 1976 and rejected requirements that firearms
have trigger locks or be kept disassembled. The ruling left intact the
district's licensing restrictions for gun owners.
One public-health study found that suicide and homicide rates in the
district dropped after the ban was adopted. The district has allowed
shotguns and rifles to be kept in homes if they are registered, kept
unloaded and taken apart or equipped with trigger locks.
The American Public Health Association, the American Association of
Suicidology and two other groups filed a legal brief supporting the
district's ban. More than 90 percent of suicide attempts using guns are
successful, while the success rate for jumping from high places was 34%.
The success rate for drug overdose was 2%, the brief said, citing
studies.
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