Thought i would chip in on the recent discussion... as far as a poster bought at auction, on the net,

or from another dealer. If you are a investor, you should look at the bottom line cost as that is the true

amount of expenditure you have invested. If you had lodgeing, time, travek, shipping, and the cost of the poster and buyers premium then thats what is invested in that item.

Now as a business we keep receipts for all costs associated with the sale ofthe poster, for instance the operating costs of a shop = rent, electric, gas, advertising, office supplies, the cost of the poster and inventory and any other costs associated with making the sale. These are true costs that affect the bottom line. Lets say you sell a one sheet for 10,000 as a example. and lets say you had 5000 in expences to sell that poster your net sale would be 5000. As for the posters worth. there are no exacts in my opinion, like the oil industry or real estate most auction houses and dealers Guess based on comparatives of previous sales. Problem is the markets have been so unstable because of many factors. I would sight: Change in buying habits ( new age minimalists) Age demogrphics ( change in attitudes due to age genres) oversaturation by auction houses and Ebay. Fact is when the investor mentallity entered the collection of posters the many buyers that had the passion however not the finances were eliminated or became super dealers because they lucked out and saved some great investment grade material. If you trace back most the largerer dealers or ones that have prospered they cashed in on early collections. Well then the market like real estate and beanie babies and the dot.com bubble became artificial based on a market that expanded based on the prosepct of scarcity anddemand for condition. As the market expanded and the marketers at auction houses and ebay sellers built the intereste to fever pitch, with catologs of fine printing and the Buzz of the ability to build portfolios of wealth with triple digits profits seen and more,. The source I see of the problem is the simple musical chair syndrome.. To much supply vs, Demand and the fact that the people that were able to buy at the inflated prices also expanded into larger homes, cars, TV sets and personal spending that exceeeded thier gross income. Expanses or base costs have exceeded profits and the aquistiontion
in real estate and stocks and collectable goods  have vasilated up and down.
So a house or car or high ticket item have become worth a fraction of original cost due to a oversupply and the slow down of consumption as thier is a pending new awareness by many persons that the perils of overexcessive living far outweigh the benifits of owning inanimate objects whose sole purpose is based on the hopes of investment, As the recent bank fiasco in California shows. Even the diligent investors that saved Cash in banks are vulnerable., So in summery I propose the base issue in all the recent problems is that we look at how a farmer works the land... he seeds the ground , tills and tends the fields, yet may or may not get a harvest.. when he has a good year he needs to budget and replant and keep the soild fertile... this same process can be applied to life manangement.. and on a global level. We are stewards of the earth, and need to address the resources that support life and people or like
the banking and real estate and food and peoples - we will all go bust.

footnote- yesterday I went to the park - Wildwood- its the estate of the Stranahan family that owned Champion Spark plug company- they donated it to city and its a wonderful place of trails for miles and miles and also has the old stables, streams, and meadows and old horse riding trails.. anys its great place to go and reconnect to nature, and to get to see the simple things.. yesterday i sat in a room they made thats a observation room... and I was able to watch a Hummingbird feed, two woodchucks, squirrels, a deer doe and two baby fawns feeding, a red cardinal bird ( ohios state bird) a Lily pond with water streaming... as I looked it was like seeing a 3-d film and yet better as this was real and had the smells and sunlight and was like a Disney wildlife movie.. yet film could never duplicate this experiance..As i walked in the fields and all the smells of wild flowers and the grasshoppers and other bugs made noises and even the weeds that made me want to senezze and eyes water were so beautiful and majestic as this is the really cool stuff thats inspired every artist and filmmaker and musician for eternity.. so as I walked i saw a woman sitting on the bench just soaking in the warm rays of sunlight.. she was absorbing it and I said ' doesnt that feel good"? well it does as it penatrates you and warms the bones and gives you vitimen d and regenerates you from inside out... when you take in the musty oders of decaying forest, and see all the animals and species and textures of living stuff all over the forest and the wonder and chaos all around yet all in a balanced harmony based on a support system of regeneration.. you see that there is some incredible design at work
and it all can inspire and promote good things.
I suggest to everyone stop and smell the roses.. if you already do.... then Bravo to you.
guess where i am going?? :)

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