There are several things to think about here. First, it's a fabulous time to get some great deals because so many people are afraid to spend. It's a good time to invest in ephemera, which is now being considered as viable as real estate and stocks (????). Same thing w/ real estate, if you know what you're doing (i.e. stay away from property that is hurricane prone). Cars - BAD time! They'll all be changing in the next few years and you don't want a brand new out- dated inefficient model that you can't unload.

If you have an incompetent mortgage, best not spend. If you're OK, spend some and stash some. The thing is, you don't want to panic to the point where you're wary of investing. This economic thing will fade, you'll still be alive and the ephemera can help pull you back to where you were. The thing is: restoration will be all the rage. Waste not, want not, right? Well, it goes along with being green; don't throw it away until it's really beat. Restore, repair, re-use.

Now about those Mayans... if they're right, at least you went ahead and bought that poster before we all croaked! Also, go ahead and eat carbs, sodium, and fat grams. Pass the dark chocolate, please!

Andrea

On Oct 8, 2008, at 3:34 PM, Tom Martin wrote:

dear Pos Adler and Mopo Ive been thinking about this for about 20 years and its been turning out as I suspected,,

The problem as I see it was simple.... historically all economy was based on a unbalanced " Musical chair"

syndrome. In other words it was always based on propped up artificial concepts.. that all tied to artificial

economys. The problem I see was the" speed of Internet" as being the pivitol point of downfall... because the

base support of the economy was and it the middle class workers that Bought the ' STUFF' cars , homes, computers and volume... thats the achilles heal

The Pay of this class was modified and peaked with artificle re- finance tactic that where the undoing.

The mind set of the buyers was to get stuff as a form of security. Yet many leveraged the debt by basically gambleing future earnings and sales that where now not there.

With the depreciateion in Real estate, and the stock market all the imaginary gains have now become
obselete.
So in summery the cash flow of all markets are now beeing reset to pre-90's or even 70's prices..

Look at wages... many in the blue collar are roled back to 10-15 hr... yet the average houshold food, gas and operating Budget has doubled. answer= Less spending and Low ticket items will be the norm for several years. Secondary market used goods will flourish, service sectors will abound, and the collectable market and entertainment will
as historically done be a refuge for many as a form of diversion.

Yet this time its differant and will be a bit harder as basically the entire world needs to get some order in personal liability for the ecology, and for treatment of fellow man , both ethically, and also by education
of people to use credit and finance in a healthy way.

Otherwise if nort corrected quickly all classes of people with come down like a tumbling card deck.

if it isnt already too late...

suggestion... prepare to live as modest as possible to weather the oncoming storm.

get a budget... and if you have some excess investment cash this could be a great time to buy for future

at same time if anyone had a magic ball they would have saw this coming instead of trusting thier finacial advisors.

I think the Leyman Brother Fuld guy has the Crytal ball as he netted 350 Million off peoples trust

including My home loan !!!!

the Mayans  say the world will end in 2012 so do many doomsdayers

Maybe they were off by a few years !

Personally I think this will all end in a Postive good way...

and I aint giving up ! and I will do my best to help others and the world

so... Just remember that !!!

TOM




Alan Adler wrote:

Mopos -

Given the size of the shake-up (or more to the point shake-down) of our economy, it seems like there's been a conspicuous absence of discussion how this turn of events affects our world of paper.

I know it is perhaps a bit early to tell -
but I am curious how those of us that make even a partial living on selling posters and memorabilia (include comics, props, toys, autographs, cards, etc.) are doing.

Are you finding big drops or is memorabilia holding its value?
What do you forsee in the immediate and long term future for material?
Are some things selling better due to the general downswing?
(I.E. Certain types of buyers finding security or at least tangibility in object investment vs. financial investment?)
Are some things hardest hit due to the above?
Are folks going to the movies more as they did when times were tough in the good old depression?
How fares our international brethren on all topics?

Just thought it might be illucidating to share our issues, concerns and observations.

Alan Adler
Museum of Mom and Pop Culture

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