Oh, and I'll just add, having any idea of a minty white from a real one via a 
tiny website pic is a problem unless it's one of the odd ones that have some 
small art crop differential... and you are aware of it.

So novice collectors, know your dealers and if you don't make sure you get a 
right of return to cover your minty behinds.

Now shall we talk about serious fraud - like distressing a repro vintage 22x28 
and trying to pass it off as an original for several thousand dollars?
Phil
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 10:26 PM
  Subject: [MOPO] Interesting to see a minty white and a known original side by 
side!


  I am currently auctioning inserts, and when I gathered up all the hundreds of 
inserts that I have been consigned, I discovered I had been sent FIVE different 
"Scarface" ones (the Pacino version). Close examination of them determined that 
four of them are "minty whites", the fake inserts that have polluted our hobby 
(see past MoPo e-mails or my E-Mail Club Archive or the LAMP site for more on 
these fakes).I will be returning those fake inserts to their owners, with the 
plea that they don't consign them to another auction (or put them on eBay). 

  But this was a great chance to look at the fakes very closely! Of course, 
they can be distinguished from the known original from their trademark "whiter 
than white" paper, and their glossier back side. But what is interesting to me 
is that when they are laid side by side, the lousy printing of the minty white 
becomes painfully obvious. They were clearly NOT printed from the original 
plates (as has sometime been speculated) but instead were made by photographing 
a known original, because the fine shadings in some areas are blurry or "filled 
in", as would be expected when you reproduce an original.

  Unfortunately, this would not jump out at most people when they solely look 
at the minty white fake. But when you look at BOTH the minty white fake and the 
proven original, those printing differences would be obvious to anyone (except 
maybe Professor Powers).

  Have the minty white fakes killed the value of the proven originals? The 
Scarface insert I am auctioning is currently at $246. so that is clearly not 
the case!

  Bruce
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