I agree with everything you guys've said so far, but think there will be some 
areas where there will be "holdouts" in poster collecting.

First of all, I think horror as a genre will continue to be very heavily 
collected for some time to come, though as time goes by the field will be 
narrowed to a relatively small number of specific titles. As one of you already 
said, many of these, like the Universal stuff, will be collected almost as art 
prints along with key mainstream titles.

And, just as there is a market for "outsider art" I think there will continue 
to be some interest in outrageous and outre stuff. This is a niche market but 
one with some staying power. I deal with quite a few younger 
artists/musicians/designers who are just discovering this area and have yet to 
hit their prime as collectors.

Dave
www.posteropolis.com


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bruce Hershenson 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [MOPO] Could this replace collecting actual movie posters?


  My 5 kids (age 4-15) read EC comics because their dad and grandpa reprinted 
all of them, but otherwise they never read a single comic book. 

  But all but the 4 year old are champions on every kind of video game, and 
they have every kind of system, and so does just about every other kid in this 
little town, and all over the world.

  I had to laugh when I heard there was a "large type" edition of the Comic 
Book Price Guide. When you and I were teens we were ridiculed by all adults for 
wasting out time reading comic books, and now it is mostly aging baby boomers 
who care about comics, and the kids could care less!

  Bruce


  On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

    yes Bruce, BLB's are also part of the historical lexicon of collecting. As 
a matter of fact, BLB's and Pulps have the same problem: only comic book 
collectors have an interest in them due to the tie between the 3 hobbies.

    But pulps are in worse shape than BLBs by virtue of % of issues collected. 
There are something like 40,000 different pulp issues from 1895-1955 (not 
including most digest sized titles of the 1950s). Only about 2000 of them are 
collected today and titles like Argosy, Blue Book, Detective Fiction Weekly etc 
are hardly noticed except for those trying to acquire specific authors. Most 
pulp collecting is confined to Shadow, Doc Savage, Spider, Weird Tales, Black 
Mask, Terror Tales etc. Even 95% of all Sci-Fi titles are dogs and things like 
westerns are better used to keep your fireplace going

    at least in BLBs there are very many with characters from comics.

    But yes. all o fthese hobbies are on the way out. For younger collectors, 
the most popular things will be video games in the original boxes, and box art 
because like us, who collected comics & posters etc because we had lots of fun 
with them as youngsters, their generation is all about video. 





    At 02:09 PM 11/30/2008, Bruce Hershenson wrote:

      Boy, you really are a ray of sunshine today! In your complete dissing of 
all paper hobbies, and their inevitable doom (insert maniacal laughter) you 
left out the deadest of all collectibles, the Big Little Books. Find me a 
collector of those who is under 75 or so.
       
      Bruce
       
      P.S. I didn't much care for "My Side of the Mountain", but I loved "The 
Other Side of the Mountain" and posters on both of these can be had for a buck 
or two each, which is what makes this a fun hobby. You can buy 30-40 year old 
posters from movies you liked for little money, and what's wrong with that?

      On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> wrote:

        I've been saying for the past 3-4 years.. maybe longer .. that digital 
displays are the direction theatres will be headed


        first of all, printing, shipping and storing posters are an expense 
that studio owners would love to eliminate. Not to mention the employees needed 
for such a distribution network.


        these employees need to inventory, request out of stock posters from 
other warehouses, have to take those rolls of 50 and pull 1-5 posters to send 
out to individual theaters etc.


        shipping by truck after printing and then individually  to theaters is 
a greater expense than printing them


        also, if a poster has a mistake, it has to be reprinted etc.


        a digital display can be controlled by one central location by the 
studio - out of the hands of theatre owners - to maintain a consistent 
promotion from the theatres in Westwood to those in Montauk and all the way to 
Japan, India and Australia with great ease. A simple program can be set up to 
change the language fonts


        When the studio wants to change the campaign, all they have to do is 
create it in the central computer & feed it - simultaneously all over the world


        But then you go further. Digital displays can show trailers 
intermingled with posters and can draw people who were just walking past the 
theatre better than a static poster. Plus you can "gang them up" creating ever 
larger displays with multiple digital panels. How about driving into a mall & 
seeing 20 digital panels fitted together to create an 8 foot by 20 foot display 
showing trailers that can be seen across the parking lot. Literally an outdoor 
cinema


        The benefits of digital displays for theatres are endless. You have a 
single upfront cost and then you never ship anything to the theatre again and 
the same system that is used to feed the displays can also be used to feed the 
film itself for digital theatres. another savings


        where does the hobby go?

        well, it would be hard to say that it doesn't drop some, and certainly 
newer collectors would be less likely


        Look at the comics hobby. Marvel & DC publish fewer comics today than 
they did during the 1940s. As a matter of fact, if you total up all the comic 
books published and distributed for any month of 2008, it is fewer issues than 
a single issue of Captain Marvel sold during WW2. (during WW2, Captain Marvel 
sold 2 million copies @ month. Current publishing by all companies is less than 
1.5 million @month. Another comic, Walt Disney's Comics & Stories had a print 
run as high as 4 million for years from the 40s-50s) As a result of fewer comic 
book readers (due to social changes- less people reading anything), the comic 
book hobby is decreasing in size and has been doing so for about 15 years.


        The result is not the elimination of these hobbies, but serious 
compression is indeed in the future. At some point Marvel & DC will cease paper 
publication as will all newspapers and magazine. The likely future is a 
mini-disc for a "reader" that you take wherever you go, in addition to just 
reading online of course. When this happens, millions of comics will devalue in 
a short period of time (a few years). Fewer collectors means more unsold titles 
and downsizing to just the most popular material for hardcore collectors and 
historians. Superman comics will always be collected at some level. the 1940s 
title Mystery Men will be a tiny niche for historically oriented collectors 
only. The same will be for posters.


        Younger people will stop buying posters. THat generation will have 
digital displays so they can change whatever they want to show


        Posters for the obvious titles will always sell. A poster after all is 
the same as an "art print". so Frankenstein, Casablanca, Snow White will always 
sell. Getting Gerties Garter however, or My Side of the Mountain.. well they 
are hardly requested anyway. So the hobby will compress as our generations die 
off, much like that nearly forgotten hobby - pulp magazines


        Rich


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