Grey,

Sure I'm reading between the lines... neither you or anyone else are giving us much else to do but read between the lines right now. I appreciate that you were one of the first people to realize there was "something not right" about one of these high end fakes and have been instrumental in advancing the investigation (and I have credited you with that before). But don't yank our chain, OK? I didn't say Heritage suffered a great financial loss, I said some "big players" have and that insurance companies for operations like Heritage may have covered some of those losses. Obviously I don't really know, because no one has released specific details. But unless I have somehow missed it, you have not categorically stated that none of the numerous now-known fakes ever passed through Heritage's hands into those of collectors.

If I'm wrong about that, please correct me in no uncertain terms, with no mincing of words. Saying Heritage did not suffer a financial loss (meaning your insurance covered it), is not the same thing as saying Heritage never inadvertently sold any fake posters.

Right now everyone involved is trying to keep the details and extent of this scandal under wraps in the name of National Security... oops... I mean because it might somehow compromise the investigation and hinder the FBI in prosecuting the guilty parties... right :)

There are all kinds of "loss" and customer confidence is a big one that will affect all sellers. Rather than issuing placating statements like those we would expect from a political figure, I would like to see Heritage publicly taking the lead in coming up with industry-wide proposals to address this issue in the future.

And saying you will subject posters to close scrutiny is not what I mean. After all, they were *always* subjected to close scrutiny before, weren't they? And now we've seen that close scrutiny isn't enough. I mean let us know how you and the rest of the poster-selling world are going to do something besides carry on business as usual, leaving the burden of determining true authenticity to the buyer after he has forked over the big bucks.

If Heritage is the leader in the business, then act like it. Let the public know exactly what you intend to do about this problem going forward and how you intend to enlist the support and cooperation of all the restorers and backers and experts in a coordinated effort.

-- JR

Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:
Richard

JR reads between the lines! His statement is untrue in regards to a loss to 
Heritage due to fakes.


On Oct 2, 2009, at 9:24 AM, "Richard Evans" 
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
 wrote:

JR, I believe you just outed Heritage.

On 2 Oct 2009, at 07:35, James Richard wrote:


3) Some of the Really Big Players got hurt this time. Heritage and other 
auction houses/retailers had to refund a lot of money to customers who bought 
fakes from them. Maybe they had insurance to help with the refunds, maybe they 
didn't, but it still hurt them financially and also hurt their reputations and 
customer confidence. They should now be willing to back the formation of a 
guild to define restoration standards and practices and *identification marks* 
of who did the work so it could be quickly checked on.

They should also be willing to encourage genuine experts to examine their very expensive items and 
provide "Opinions of Authenticity" to help restore buyer confidence. Note that I call 
them "Opinions" of Authenticity because it is getting harder for even long-time 
participants in this field to identify the best of the fakes. After the John Davis fiasco, I doubt 
anyone would be willing to sign their name on 100% Guarantee anymore, but a solid opinion with 
specifics delineated would still be better than nothing, which is what we have on most very 
expensive items right now.

Grey is entitled to his opinion that there is no real problem in catching 
fakes, but history has not borne that out in recent years and besides, the 
public perception being what it is now, if Heritage expects to keep setting 
those record prices they are simply going to have to offer the buyers something 
more substantial in the way of authentication on high-end items than they have 
in the past.

Or maybe not. Maybe it will all go back to business-as-usual once again. In 
which case we can all look forward to even bigger scandals in the future -- and 
declining realized prices for genuine high-end and middle-tier authentic movie 
posters.

It is now in *everyone's* best interest to DO SOMETHING real and practical to help insure 
nothing of this magnitude happens again. Just making reassuring statements that the 
"sky is not falling" won't cut it. A 19% buyers premium on a $30,000 poster 
sale is $5,700 bucks -- they should be willing to spend a few hundred to properly 
authenticate it before offering it to the customers they are asking to trust them.

A money-back guarantee is a great thing. But what good does it do you if you 
end up buying a fake and never find out about it? Or don't find out about it 
for 10 or 20 years... or until your children go to sell it after you've passed 
it on to them in your estate?

-- JR


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