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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 12:41 AM, dsonesheets <[email protected]> wrote: > Fuckin A right. > > Pardon my French, but when are people going to stop treating this as > damage control issue while saying ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about what steps > they're going to be taking to prevent this from happening again? I'm > ready to drop off this list, because it seems no one besides JR has > the balls to come out with what no one else is saying because they > don't have the brains to understand what's going on in the first > place. > > BTW, I received ONE whole response to my letter about my letter three > years ago, and it was JR again. > > Pathetic. > > On Sunday, October 4, 2009, James Richard <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Grey, > > > > Sure I'm reading between the lines... neither you or anyone else are > > giving us much else to do but read between the lines right now. I > > appreciate that you were one of the first people to realize there was > > "something not right" about one of these high end fakes and have been > > instrumental in advancing the investigation (and I have credited you > > with that before). But don't yank our chain, OK? I didn't say Heritage > > suffered a great financial loss, I said some "big players" have and > > that insurance companies for operations like Heritage may have covered > > some of those losses. Obviously I don't really know, because no one has > > released specific details. But unless I have somehow missed it, you > > have not categorically stated that none of the numerous now-known fakes > > ever passed through Heritage's hands into those of collectors. > > > > If I'm wrong about that, please correct me in no uncertain terms, with > > no mincing of words. Saying Heritage did not suffer a financial loss > > (meaning your insurance covered it), is not the same thing as saying > > Heritage never inadvertently sold any fake posters. > > > > Right now everyone involved is trying to keep the details and extent of > > this scandal under wraps in the name of National Security... oops... I > > mean because it might somehow compromise the investigation and hinder > > the FBI in prosecuting the guilty parties... right :) > > > > There are all kinds of "loss" and customer confidence is a big one that > > will affect all sellers. Rather than issuing placating statements like > > those we would expect from a political figure, I would like to see > > Heritage publicly taking the lead in coming up with industry-wide > > proposals to address this issue in the future. > > > > And saying you will subject posters to close scrutiny is not what I > > mean. After all, they were *always* subjected to close scrutiny before, > > weren't they? And now we've seen that close scrutiny isn't enough. I > > mean let us know how you and the rest of the poster-selling world are > > going to do something besides carry on business as usual, leaving the > > burden of determining true authenticity to the buyer after he has > > forked over the big bucks. > > > > If Heritage is the > > leader > > in the business, then act like it. Let the public know exactly what you > > intend to do about this problem going forward and how you intend to > > enlist the support and cooperation of all the restorers and backers and > > experts in a coordinated effort. > > > > -- JR > > > > Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: > > > > Richard > > > > JR reads between the lines! His statement is untrue in regards to a loss > to Heritage due to fakes. > > > > > > On Oct 2, 2009, at 9:24 AM, "Richard Evans" <<mailto: > [email protected]>[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');><mailto:[email protected]>> > wrote: > > > > JR, I believe you just outed Heritage. > > > > On 2 Oct 2009, at 07:35, James Richard wrote: > > > > > > 3) Some of the Really Big Players got hurt this time. Heritage and other > auction houses/retailers had to refund a lot of money to customers who > bought fakes from them. Maybe they had insurance to help with the refunds, > maybe they didn't, but it still hurt them financially and also hurt their > reputations and customer confidence. They should now be willing to back the > formation of a guild to define restoration standards and practices and > *identification marks* of who did the work so it could be quickly checked > on. > > > > They should also be willing to encourage genuine experts to examine their > very expensive items and provide "Opinions of Authenticity" to help restore > buyer confidence. Note that I call them "Opinions" of Authenticity because > it is getting harder for even long-time participants in this field to > identify the best of the fakes. After the John Davis fiasco, I doubt anyone > would be willing to sign their name on 100% Guarantee anymore, but a solid > opinion with specifics delineated would still be better than nothing, which > is what we have on most very expensive items right now. > > > > Grey is entitled to his opinion that there is no real problem in catching > fakes, but history has not borne that out in recent years and besides, the > public perception being what it is now, if Heritage expects to keep setting > those record prices they are simply going to have to offer the buyers > something more substantial in the way of authentication on high-end items > than they have in the past. > > > > Or maybe not. Maybe it will all go back to business-as-usual once again. > In which case we can all look forward to even bigger scandals in the future > -- and declining realized prices for genuine high-end and middle-tier > authentic movie posters. > > > > It is now in *everyone's* best interest to DO SOMETHING real and > practical to help insure nothing of this magnitude happens again. Just > making reassuring statements that the "sky is not falling" won't cut it. A > 19% buyers premium on a $30,000 poster sale is $5,700 bucks -- they should > be willing to spend a few hundred to properly authenticate it before > offering it to the customers they are asking to trust them. > > > > A money-back guarantee is a great thing. But what good does it do you if > you end up buying a fake and never find out about it? Or don't find out > about it for 10 or 20 years... or until your children go to sell it after > you've passed it on to them in your estate? > > > > -- JR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > > Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > <javascript:_e({}, > 'cvml', '[email protected]');> > > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > -- > Steve Zammar > [email protected] > owner, ds|onesheets > 303/478-3973 > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
