I have no power to do what you want, except in regard to my own auctions (which do represent a considerable amount of the real auctions that close each week with a real change of ownership).
Therefore I have added a banner to my home page declaring "This site is a Fake-Free Zone", and I mean it! Bruce On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Steven F. Poole <[email protected]> wrote: > The question really becomes, then, if no individual has a forged > poster that came out of the auctions, what has become of them? Are they > back in the hands of the consigner? Of the mastermind who put them > together in the first place? In the hands of competent authorities? One of > the most scarred victims of the fake Universal pieces said last night on > this forum that Heritage has made good on the bogus material that was sold > (as well as Profiles). This really is to th credit of both Heritage and > Profiles. I again express my hope (and I think others) that some kind of > a comprehensive "master list" could be made of the bogus horror material of > what was sold, by whom, when it was discovered as bogus and how restitution > was made. Finally (and mayb the most important question) Where are they > now? I would hate to think that they are....." Coming soon, to an auction > near you". > Again, I am not denegrating any auction house or individual dealer or > collector by asking this. I have but a smattering of classic horror material > myself. All of the uncertanties in this market at this time are making me > very wary of adding to what I currently have. I don't feel as though I have > the ability to positively identify a fake since they apparently are so well > done. > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:49 PM > *Subject:* Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate? > > "I am very certain that no individual has in their possession a forged > poster that came from Heritage." > > It is really, really good, almost on a par with "in having a 20% buyers > premium, we let the buyer and seller share the expense of selling an item, > instead of having one or the other bear all the burden" (or words to that > effect). > > There is an incredible art in being a politician, and I too see a great new > career should this current gig not work out for any reason. > > If a politician says "I am flat-out against abortion" (or insert any other > important issue), he/she alienates around half the electorate. The same > happens if he/she says "I am flat-out for abortion". > > But let the politician straddle the fence and say, "One must consider all > sides of this important issue and realise there are many valuable points on > both sides" then he/she alienates no one. > > And let's not forget there's a sucker born every minute, and there will > always be another one coming down the pike to buy that rare collectible > "investment" at an ever-higher price. > > Bruce > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Richard Evans <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Grey, I'd like to compliment you on yet another example of the exemplary >> quality of your writing. >> As the area becomes ever narrower you continue to navigate it with >> remarkable precision. >> Should you ever tire of movie posters, I'm sure an extremely successful >> career in politics awaits you. >> >> I am very certain that no individual has in their possession a forged >>> poster that came from Heritage. >>> >> >> Brilliant! >> >> I can honestly say I received excellent service from Heritage, and found >> you extremely professional and personable. >> But, while mistakes are understandable and forgivable, I feel by >> continuing to take this position, Heritage and other auction houses are >> doing themselves a disservice. >> That said, it's a hoot to read. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 7 Oct 2009, at 22:25, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote: >> >> Sean and all MOPOers >>> >>> I am very certain that no individual has in their possession a forged >>> poster that came from Heritage. As a matter of fact, I did first discover >>> the fact of these fakes when an attempt was made to consign a "forged" >>> Dracula title card from a respected horror collector and I promptly not only >>> called the consignor but began speaking with horror buyers throughout the >>> country that I know, to let them know what was found. I certainly know Sean >>> and Jim Gresham will attest to that. I know that Jim G. then sent me cards >>> to look over, in which my belief was, they were forgeries. >>> I believe I was the first to suggest to certain collectors in Columbus >>> that the Frankenstein Title card in another auction may not be authentic, >>> though I had not seen it, but knowing that some cards were showing up that >>> were forged. >>> I have sent clients to John Davis as he began to look into this and I >>> thought he was doing a good job, I believe, in verifying the cards. >>> Do I wish I had thrown up a red flare to the hobby earlier? Perhaps, but >>> the extent of this was not known nor was there much on who may have been >>> behind it. I think it was when Jim G. sent me his cards that some of us were >>> very surprised. No, I was not sworn to secrecy, as some claim, but have >>> worked to warn and help collectors with questions concerning these since >>> first discovering. >>> This is a warning to us to look closely in the future. A grading and >>> perhaps authentification service would be of help but I believe up to this >>> time the fakes are not difficult to detect. Please be assured that Heritage >>> is perhaps overly cautious at this stage in dealing primarily with horror >>> and a few examples of science fiction titles. >>> Grey >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2009, at 1:45 PM, "Sean Linkenback" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bruce, >>> While I am a little busy today, if you have a list of all these items >>> Heritage sold that were fake, I will be happy to comb through the archives >>> for you. >>> I believe that the 3-sheet of Ghost of Frankenstein mentioned in the >>> complaint by Jim Gresham was from Heritage, and I see it has been removed >>> from their archives. >>> I also know Heritage's policy is to not report any sales which fell >>> through, and while I would imagine this would include the inadvertent >>> selling of fakes perhaps you should address this question to Grey Smith >>> rather than me, as I am still not on their (or anyone else's) payroll. >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Bruce Hershenson<mailto:[email protected]> >>> To: Sean Linkenback<mailto:[email protected]> >>> Cc: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate? >>> >>> I went to the LAMP site and of course you are correct, and I apologize >>> for the error, to LAMP and anyone else who was offended by it. >>> >>> I think I was thinking of LAMP not appearing to have anything on their >>> site about the Dracula fake being "authenticated" and then withdrawn, or is >>> there a link to that as well? >>> >>> Sean, since you seem to be an expert on this, can you tell me if the >>> Hertiage archives on their site still includes items that proved to be fake, >>> and if so, why? Doesn't this distort the apparent rarity of those items? >>> >>> Bruce >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at <http://www.filmfan.com> >>> www.filmfan.com<http://www.filmfan.com> >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>> Send a message addressed to: <mailto:[email protected]> >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >>> >>> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >>> ___________________________________________________________________ >>> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >>> >>> Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >>> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >>> >>> The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. >>> >>> >> Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >> ___________________________________________________________________ >> How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >> Send a message addressed to: >> [email protected] >> In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >> The author of this message is solely >> responsible for its content. >> > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ How to > UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: > [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF > MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > ------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.7/2421 - Release Date: 10/07/09 > 20:49:00 > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
