I don't know much but I do know that you have an extremely limited
vocabulary. FRANC

-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron
Moore
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 11:02 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] What is Dip Shit really telling us? Let me
translate...


So- what is Dip Shit (DS) really telling us? Let me translate... 


I KNOW fuckin' everything about this fuckin' fake poster and lobby card
situation and I KNOW that fuckin' Heritage is doing fuck all nothing
about it because they don't personally answer my fuckin' questions and
kiss my fuckin' ass! Grey needs to report to me IMMEDIATELY!!! And when
he doesn't give me the fuckin' answer I like, I'm gonna fuckin' rant on
MoPo because I know how to say FUCK and I got an excuse now! I KNOW that
fuckin' Jaime is guilty- because every fuckin' collector that's on MoPo
has implied he is-  and I have appointed myself judge, jury and
executioner! Grey and those fuckin' attorney's at Heritage need a
fuckin' personal lecture from me on how to conduct business and respond
to all the fuckin' fuckheads on MoPo that get their panties in a wad
beccause we all KNOW they ain't doin' nuthin to help us poor, poor, poor
fuckin' collectors. It's a fuckin' conspiracy!!! And we're all poor,
because we pay all those God Damn awful fuckin' fees. I KNOW those
fuckers at Heritage have personally wrecked the US economy with their
fuckin' fees and that's why we're fuck all poor.  By the way, I'm God's
gift to this hobby and I KNOW everything! 

NEXT- I would rather sell all my fucked up posters through Bruce's
fuckin' auction because I KNOW I dont' have anything good enough for
those fuckers at Heritage to take in their auction. That's 'cause I'm a
cheap-ass fuck and I begrudge anyone that actually publishes a color
catalog and wants to be paid for their fuckin' services! I sure wish I
had a fuckin' formula for printing cash!!! SHit! Maybe I can get hold of
Kerry for that one. GOD-DAMN!!! Whew!!!!! Oh-excuse the fuckin' shit out
of me! Wait, I was supposed to stick with FUCK!  I got carried away for
a minute. 

I guess FUCK ME!!!!!  

Did I get that about right?


Get off MoPo! IF you can't keep the discussion reasonable instead of
going off on tirades we really don't need it.

--- On Wed, 10/7/09, dsonesheets <[email protected]> wrote:



From: dsonesheets <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] What is Grey really telling us? Let me translate...
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 5:45 PM


So business as usual, Grey?  Sure what it sounds like.  No internal
investigation, not even a temporary halting of using Jaime for your
restoration EVEN TEMPORARILY until the issue gets settled?  Man, for the
amount of money you guys make, sure sounds like you're doing jack shit
besides being "more cautious," which is what we pay those god awful fees
for in the first fucking place.  Guess when you have a formula for
printing your own cash you don't fuck with it.

I would rather sell ALL of my material through Bruce on consignment then
give a single buck to Heritage.  In the middle of this crisis they're
doing fuck all, and are just trying to keep their head down and
hopefully dodge some media bullets, while giving nothing but
double-talk.  Weren't they always supposed to be "overly cautious",
being one of the largest movie memorabilia auctioneers in the country?
And his comments in the media like sound like something Bull Durham
coached him on.  Just want to do what's best for the team, etc., etc.,
blah, blah, blah.

Let me tell you what Grey is REALLY saying: 
"First, it should be known that I, Grey Smith, took many of the bullets
from the opening volley of this conflict, and was ready to lay my life
down for the cause, and I alone have worked to warn and help collectors
with questions concerning these dastardly deeds.  A grading and
authentication (not authentification, which isn't even a word) service
would definitely be of help but we don't really need it and for God's
sake we don't want to pay for it, because We Are Heritage and want to
maximize our profits, not piss them away. This is the way we've always
done it, and this is the way we'll continue to do it.  And since the
fakes are so easy to detect, we won't be overly cautious on anything but
some horror and a little sci-fi, which means we're not going to do a
lick of work on 98% of the other material out there unless we get caught
selling some more fraudulent material.  We are Heritage. Your poster and
lobby card distinctiveness will be added to our own.  Resistance is
futile.  End communication."

Did I get that about right?




On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Smith, Grey - 1367 <[email protected]>
wrote:


Sean and all MOPOers

I am very certain that no individual has in their possession a forged
poster that came from Heritage. As a matter of fact, I did first
discover the fact of these fakes when an attempt was made to consign a
"forged" Dracula title card from a respected horror collector and I
promptly not only called the consignor but began speaking with horror
buyers throughout the country that I know, to let them know what was
found. I certainly know Sean and Jim Gresham will attest to that. I know
that Jim G. then sent me cards to look over, in which my belief was,
they were forgeries.
I believe I was the first to suggest to certain collectors in Columbus
that the Frankenstein Title card in another auction may not be
authentic, though I had not seen it, but knowing that some cards were
showing up that were forged.
I have sent clients to John Davis as he began to look into this and I
thought he was doing a good job, I believe, in verifying the cards.
Do I wish I had thrown up a red flare to the hobby earlier? Perhaps, but
the extent of this was not known nor was there much on who may have been
behind it. I think it was when Jim G. sent me his cards that some of us
were very surprised. No, I was not sworn to secrecy, as some claim, but
have worked to warn and help collectors with questions concerning these
since first discovering.
This is a warning to us to look closely in the future. A grading  and
perhaps authentification service would be of help but I believe up to
this time the fakes are not difficult to detect. Please be assured that
Heritage is perhaps overly cautious at this stage in dealing primarily
with horror and a few examples of science fiction titles.
Grey


On Oct 7, 2009, at 1:45 PM, "Sean Linkenback"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Hi Bruce,
While I am a little busy today, if you have a list of all these items
Heritage sold that were fake, I will be happy to comb through the
archives for you.
I believe that the 3-sheet of Ghost of Frankenstein mentioned in the
complaint by Jim Gresham was from Heritage, and I see it has been
removed from their archives.
I also know Heritage's policy is to not report any sales which fell
through, and while I would imagine this would include the inadvertent
selling of fakes perhaps you should address this question to Grey Smith
rather than me, as I am still not on their (or anyone else's) payroll.

Sean

----- Original Message -----

From: Bruce Hershenson<mailto:[email protected]>
To: Sean Linkenback<mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: <mailto:[email protected]>
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Where to send Universal material to authenticate?

I went to the LAMP site and of course you are correct, and I apologize
for the error, to LAMP and anyone else who was offended by it.

I think I was thinking of LAMP not appearing to have anything on their
site about the Dracula fake being "authenticated" and then withdrawn, or
is there a link to that as well?

Sean, since you seem to be an expert on this, can you tell me if the
Hertiage archives on their site still includes items that proved to be
fake, and if so, why? Doesn't this distort the apparent rarity of those
items?

Bruce

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