Jim, you do realize that this is a civil suit and not a criminal one, yes? Innocent until proven guilty isn't really a term used in this case, that's for criminal trials (such as Haggard's upcoming trial when the FBI arrest him).
But I wasn't attacking Debi, just expressing my disbelief that her dealings with Jim have had to come to a lawsuit. In this particular case the facts are quite clear: 1. Jim paid Debi for a lobby card (that she apparently received in a trade from Haggard) 2. This lobby card was later determined to be fake 3. Jim returned the lobby card to Debi and is awaiting a refund There can only be a few reasons that Debi is refusing to refund in this situation. 1. Jim DIDN'T pay Debi for this item, or Debi did not accept payment for it (Jim's proof of payment says this is not true). 2. The lobby card ISN'T fake (report from Carol Tincup says this is not the situation) 3. Jim DIDN'T return the card to Debi (proof of receipt says this isn't true). 4. Jim switched out a real card for a fake one? (a ridiculous idea that anyone who knows Jim would attest to) 5. Jim somehow profited from the deal and Debi is refusing to refund (not sure how you profit when you spend money buying a fake, but I'm listing it anyways) For months Bruce has been warning of the dangers of dealing with people who have sold fakes and would not accept responsibility for doing so, here we have clear evidence of a supposedly reputable dealer selling a fake and not refunding the customer who has purchased it. Debi needs to do the right thing and refund Jim Gresham and pursue the forger who sold/traded her the fake just as many others are doing. And Jim, to answer your question - NO. Like Bruce, in my years of dealing I have never had a lawsuit or a court case, either against me or initiated by me. I guess having some sort of a moral compass and actually attempting to do the right thing instead of just pay lip service to the concept has served me well so far. Sean ----- Original Message ----- From: jim episale To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Universal Horror Fraud Update Sean It is really beyond belief that you continue until attack Debi. Have you NEVER been involved in a lawsuit? The First thing that your attorney tells you is not to discuss the case. It will be interesting to see what finally comes out. And I hope that you will be as quick to apologize as you have been to criticize As for me I still believe in the adage of our American Justice system " Innocent Until PROVEN Guilty". jim Check out our shop video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-n2AznLA8o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCP7PaO-2tk&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fojAZcbvL7E&feature=related jim episale Unshredded Nostalgia 323 South main St. Route 9 Barnegat, N.J. 08005 800-872-9990 609-660-2626 "Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional." From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Linkenback Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 5:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [MOPO] Universal Horror Fraud Update There have been two new cases filed against sellers of fake Universal Horror posters: GC 091284 James Gresham v. Debi Jacobson CV 06529 Movietime, Inc. et al v. Haggard It is no surprise to see another case against Haggard (this time by the owners of the eBay ID JerseryProductions), and anyone else who has been defrauded by Haggard needs to act soon to preserve their rights against his pending bankruptcy filing. But it is sad to see Debi Jacobson still refusing to take responsibility for selling a Universal horror fake. For someone who wanted to "do the right thing", I guess the right thing means defending against a lawsuit instead of refunding a customer who returned a fake item to her several months ago. Makes me quite glad that I deal with people like Bruce, Heritage, Todd F., and others who stand 100% behind their material and offer unconditional money-back guarantees (as I also do), and not dealers who offer questionable tactics and hide behind attorneys. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
