Hi Gary, Thank you for your suggestions. We realize that the hobby doesn't quite understand what we're doing and why. Let me take this opportunity to try to explain a little more.
We spent 10 months designing our database not only as a repository for poster images but also as a research tool that could eventually be used for verification. Our son-in-law is a master programmer for the Navy and specially designed it for us. We initially considered allowing dealers and collectors the ability to upload, but it came down to a choice of simplifying the programming to allow outside submissions or creating it for unlimited sortability. In other words, when I load images, I go through 4 pages of programming without the images. We take everything that we can off the poster... printer info, litho plate numbers, nss numbers, artist info, studio logo info, distribution info, etc.. This is why our database is so unique. You can sort by EVERYTHING... You want to see what posters we have with Filmkeuring stamps on them, you can sort by censor stamps, or by anniversary posters or reissues(or any other type), distributors, genre, printers... literally thousands of variables. And you may ask WHY would you want to???? This has already begun to produce MASSIVE amounts of information on the hobby that has NEVER been available before. It is the basis of most of our 9 reference books that we have published. We've established base documentation in areas such as NSS; production codes; artists; reissues; lithographers & plate numbers and a lot more. We tried 2 years ago to work on the problem of legimate pricing information. We gathered 60,000 prices for the Dealers Market to use to create it and wrote the program. We wasted almost a year trying to get the programming to work in conjunction with our existing database until we finally gave up. The 2 programs were too complicated to intertwine. We will have to completely redesign our database with this programming from the start. Over the past 5 years since we first designed the database, I've been learning what else was needed and we're planning next year to start on the new program with all of these changes included. We have a lot of new features that we want to include when we redo the database such as: automatic updating of a sales price; collectors able to keep their collections in a special section; the ability to keep wish lists and cross reference who has them, etc. So far every page on LAMP has been put on by Sue or myself. We have now gotten large enough that we are getting attention from major academic facilities (such as the Academy, Library of Congress, Harvard, Smithsonian, etc), so we are trying to branch out to a local college for help. We've had our first talks with them which has been very positive and hope that we will be able to work with them in training personnel that will in turn give us trained labor for adding material faster on LAMP. The academic community is learning very rapidly that we are unique and there's no one else in the world gathering the information that we have. Unfortunately, we can't go as fast as collectors might want for the images because we're not just building a repository of images. You can go other places to find the LOTS and LOTS of pretty pictures... but if you want the information... you have to come to LAMP. But again, I thank you for your suggestions and hope this explains more Best, ed -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Old Time Cinema Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:22 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] images Hi Ed - Just a suggestion, but you may want to consider using a situation like ExpressoBeans - where collectors can upload the pictures directly, adding sales info and other details with each upload. You would still get to edit every submission yourself, but you would have many more images that you would know what to do with, and you could also start an authentic database of realtime sales...which we are sorely lacking. Also, each poster would have its own comments section/blog, so people can correct any mistakes you might miss. This is something that is desperately needed, and the ExpressoBeans site, while it has movie posters, is not really set up for movie posters and the folks running the site generally do not like movie posters. Just an idea, if you don't do it I'm sure someone will eventually - there is an opportunity here that is a good one, IMHO. Regards, Gary > Hi All, > > Most collectors don't realize that one of the main objectives of LAMP is > to > try to document every poster ever issued that is still in existence or at > least documented. Yes, we realize that this is a completely ridiculous > project, but someone has to do it. The problem is that the poster > collecting > hobby was so far behind most major hobbies due to a lack of any valid > documentation. Consequently, documentation had to be created for any type > of > verification to be established (which is one of the other main objectives > of > LAMP). Without valid documentation, everything just becomes pretty > pictures > and hearsay. This is a LOT more difficult and a LOT slower, but necessary > for any future benefit. Every day (7 days a week) we're hard at work to > try > to accomplish as much of this as possible before it's lost. (and yes, we > have no life) > > > > Since collectors love to look at images, it was suggested that we let more > collectors know what images we're adding to our archive. On the 7th of > last > month I started documenting the titles as I updated them. I keep a queue > of > 30-50,000 poster images waiting to go online and currently have a little > over 81,000 posters online and cross referenced. When I work on a title, I > try to add all that is in my queue on that title that is presentable. Some > rarer titles only have one or two images, while more popular titles have > dozens from a variety of countries. This allows you to look at all the > variations at one time. > > > > Here is a list of what we added for the end of March. You can click on the > title a go directly to the thumbnails for that title and see what we've > documented so far. If anyone has additional images on any of the titles > and > would like to submit them, we will be glad to give credit if it is one > that > we can use. > > > > If this is something the forum would enjoy, let me know and I will present > a > new list each month > > > > > 14, > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=24153> > The 1973 > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=3> > Abbott and Costello in the Foreign Legion 1950 > Alaskan > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189202> > 1924 > Ali > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=69870> > Baba and the Forty Thieves 1944 > Alice > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=26091> > in > Wonderland: X Rated Musical 1976 > Argyle > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=81269> > Case 1929 > Avalanche > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=27902> > 1978 > Bachelor's > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189221> > Baby 1927 > Back > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189205> > Home and Broke 1922 > Bond > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=122704> > of Fear 1917 > Bongolo > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189217> > and the Negro Princess 1952 > Bullshot > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=32327> > 1983 > Burnt > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=26696> > Offerings 1976 > Butch > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=16722> > Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 1969 > Calamity > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=3125> > Jane 1953 > Canadian > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189201> > 1926 > Cappy > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=167772> > Ricks 1921 > Carmen > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=112309> > 1984 > Cat > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=31549> > People 1982 > Chorus > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=37831> > of > Disapproval 1988 > City > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189200> > Gone Wild 1927 > Comeback > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=31576> > 1982 > Coming > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189204> > Through 1925 > Confessions > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=164800> > of a Police Captain 1972 > Confessions > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189229> > of a Queen 1925 > Country > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189227> > Doctor 1927 > Day > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=25318> > of the Locust 1975 > Day > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=11414> > of the Triffids 1962 > Docks > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=76455> > of > San Francisco 1932 > Dressmaker > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189218> > From Paris 1925 > Easy > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189206> > Road 1921 > Fighting > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189222> > Fate 1921 > Fools > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189223> > and Riches 1923 > Forbidden > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=128759> > City 1918 > Fornicon > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=15328> > 1970 > Frenchie > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=1251> > 1951 > Funny > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=16413> > Girl 1969 > Glad > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=81374> > Rag Doll 1929 > Going > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=129924> > Straight 1916 > Grand > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=27316> > Theft Auto 1977 > Hardboiled > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=81390> > Rose 1929 > Heart > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=131030> > Strings 1920 > Hell > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189233> > Diggers 1921 > Her > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=131511> > Purchase Price 1919 > Hiroshima > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=9058> > Mon > Amour 1959 > Homeward > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189203> > Bound 1923 > Honeysuckle > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=30031> > Rose 1980 > Honor > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=132522> > of the Regiment 1913 > I > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=167348> > Am the Law 1922 > I <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=40538> > Come in Peace 1990 > I <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=82252> > Married Adventure 1940 > Immoral > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=9079> > Mr. > Teas 1959 > Internes > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=72915> > Can't Take Money 1937 > Irish > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189207> > Luck 1925 > Iron > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=81424> > Mask 1929 > Johnny > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=22090> > Got His Gun 1971 > Kingdom, > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189215> > The 1994 > Lion > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189224> > and the Souse 1924 > Lola > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=89235> > 1961 > Lost > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=5759> > Tribe 1949 > M'Liss > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=137112> > 1918 > Man > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189208> > Who Found Himself 1925 > Manslaughter > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=89883> > 1922 > Maschera > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=83907> > del Demonio (Black Sunday) 1960 > Mating > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189209> > Call 1928 > Miracle > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=88500> > Man 1919 > Moral > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189230> > of the Lady Letty 1922 > Naughty > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=4423> > New > Orleans 1954 > Never > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=139693> > Too Old to Woo 1917 > New > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189210> > Klondike 1926 > Night > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=83855> > Ride 1930 > Office > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=81509> > Scandal 1929 > Oklahoma! > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=5300> > 1955 > Pawnee > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=7467> > 1957 > Peck's > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=78439> > Bad Boy 1934 > Penrod > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189213> > 1922 > Peter > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=3770> > Pan > 1953 > Pershing's > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=141521> > Crusaders 1918 > Pi > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=52920> > 1998 > Pickup > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=1858> > 1951 > Pied > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189211> > Piper Malone 1924 > Planet > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=16176> > of > the Apes 1968 > Playing > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=50843> > God 1997 > Point > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=21769> > of > Terror 1971 > Racket > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=89622> > 1928 > Rackety > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=76850> > Rax 1932 > Rainbow > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=79692> > Ranch 1933 > Rancho > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=2572> > Notorious 1952 > Rejuvenation > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189219> > of Aunt Mary 1927 > Remains > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=45006> > of > the Day 1993 > Ride > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=67463> > On > Vaquero 1941 > Ride > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=74324> > Ranger Ride 1936 > Rituals > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=27793> > 1977 > Road > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=18272> > House 1948 > Rock > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=29169> > 'n' Roll High School 1979 > Sally > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189225> > 1925 > Scene > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=5970> > of > the Crime 1949 > Secret > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=18301> > Beyond the Door 1947 > See > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=71106> > My Lawyer 1945 > Silent > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189231> > Partner 1923 > Slaves > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=73320> > in > Bondage 1937 > Son > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189226> > of Wallingford 1921 > Sound > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=13952> > of > Music 1965 > Southerner > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=71142> > 1945 > Sporting > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189220> > Venus 1925 > Summer > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=9462> > Place 1959 > Tale > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=8620> > of Two Cities 1958 > Taste > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=10863> > of > Honey 1961 > They > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=19158> > Won't Believe Me 1947 > This > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=12125> > Sporting Life 1963 > Tin > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189198> > Gods 1926 > Thunderbolt > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=148022> > 1919 > Twin > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189228> > Husbands 1922 > We're > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189212> > All Gamblers 1927 > Wheel > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=81637> > of > Life 1929 > Whole > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=79526> > Town Talking 1935 > Why > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=151456> > Change Your Wife 1920 > Wicker > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=24149> > Man 1973 > Wild > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=11684> > Gals of the Naked West 1962 > Wolf's > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189232> > Trail 1927 > Woman > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=166901> > Against Woman, or, Rescued in the Clouds 1914 > Woman-Proof > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=189199> > 1923 > Yolanda > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/posters/db/release.asp?rid=89695> > 1924 > > > Best, > > ed Poole > > [email protected] > > owner > > LearnAboutMoviePosters.com <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/> > > MoviePosterDataBase.com > <http://www.learnaboutmovieposters.com/newsite/MOVIES/MPDB.asp> > > > > > ======= > Email 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