I had this happen to me as well. It's a bit unnerving. I wonder out of the billion people that have a email address, how was I picked for this great honor? I had this happen to my Ebay account as well a couple of years ago. For a while "I" was selling computers that no one would receive after paying for them. John W
________________________________ From: James Gresham <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, January 6, 2011 8:38:32 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? Last night someone hacked my e mail address. Just in case anyone got an e mail, I am not in trouble and not in need of money! Sorry for any inconvenience. Jim On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Zeev Drach <[email protected]> wrote: Evan, > >Even though at the very end of your post you go along with my contention, >there >are a couple of points in what you said that I am uneasy with: >First of, my suggestion was NOT to pick your favorite, because of skewed >perception. >Secondly, I thought that doin' it in your mind will avoid making the whole >thing >an "exact science", because my number 3 is just something I picked out off the >cuff. I won't swear to it. >Lastly, and that is the most important, who gives those IMDB ratings, and what >the heck are they worth? I don't exactly know, but I suspect not a heck of a >lot. Case in point, of all Brando's great contribution to the world of motion >pictures, 6 received an above 8.00 rating. But wait a minute, in the #3 spot >is >The Godfather-the VIDEO GAME!!, in the #5 spot is that "great" 2001 TV >documentary starring Michael Jackson, and the first runner up in the #7 spot >is >"Roots: The Next Generation". >See what I'm getting at? >Clearly, those ratings are compiled by a computer based on popular voting >which >happen to be mostly the very young audience. >Not wrong, but very skewed. > >Zeev > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:08 AM >To: Zeev Drach >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > > >Don't trust you mind -- this is the age of the internet. > >Pick a star, find them in IMDB, and look at their film credits sorted by >rating. > If you assume (like I do) that anything rated 8 or above is a truly great > film, >I think you will be surprised at what you find. > >My favorite star has always been James Stewart and to his credit: > >(8.70) - It's a Wonderful Life (1946) >(8.70) - Rear Window (1954) >(8.60) - Vertigo (1958) >(8.40) - Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) >(8.10) - The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (1962) >(8.10) - Rope (1948) >(8.10) - The Philadelphia Story (1940) >(8.10) - Anatomy of a Murder (1959) >(8.10) - Harvey (1950) >(8.09) - The Shop Around the Corner (1940) > >Not to mention nearly another 30 (WOW!) respectable films rated 7 or higher. > >However, I think that he is the exception -- and I suspect that your number >(3) >is dead on! > >Evan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Zeev Drach" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Wednesday, January 5, 2011 4:20:44 PM >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > > > > >I have long held to the idea that if a big-name actor has 3 truly great films >to >his/her credit, then he/she is doing very well. I know, it doesn’t sound like >much but if you play this game, pick at random a big star(not your favorite >though, because then you’re not objective) and go over in your mind through >his >achievements, you’d soon realize that it’s not easy to come up with 5 truly >great movies spread out over an entire career. That would be the domain of >the >true superstars! And there aren’t many of those. > > > > > >From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard >Halegua Comic Art >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 4:49 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > > > >Clark Gable is known for 2-3 films today (for the most part) >GWTW >It Happened One Night >the Misfits (because of Marilyn) > >otherwise, he is entirely forgotten and that is a shame as he was a fine actor > > >At 01:46 PM 1/5/2011, Dave Rosen wrote: > > > > >For some of these stars (James Dean in particular) some of the lobbies and >8x10s >(at least color 8x10s, where they exist) are much better than any of the >posters >of any format for their movies. > >Ultimately, as time passes, collectors age, trends and fashions change, many >former "icons" will only be known for one or two of their films, while others >will cease to be "icons" altogether, joining the vanished stars of the silent >era. And the process is probably helped along by the lack of attractive movie >paper on them. > >It's sad to watch this happen, especially with a star the calibre of Brando, >who >was (and to a large extent remains) a very influential movie actor. But that's >just the way it is... > >Dave > >Posteropolis Vintage Movie Posters >http://www.posteropolis.com/ > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Neil Jaworski > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 3:50 PM > >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > >i agree with Zeev and it's interesting that Brando, Clift and Dean were each >served by terrible US campaigns for all their major films: > >A Place In The Sun, From Here To Eternity, Suddenly Last Summer, On The >Waterfront, Streetcar Named Desire, The Wild One, I Confess, Rebel, Giant, >East >Of Eden.... > >all pretty awful campaigns and so none of these actors has a single US poster >that truly shows them at their peak. clift looks only so-so on the >uninspired >A Place In The Sun 1sh. a better image is The Heiress 3sh (on the 1sh he's >largely hidden as per I Confess and much of his other paper). > >was clift too pretty for public consumption? the best clift portrait must >actually be the one on his section of The Young Lions 1sh (although ruining >things on this poster is brando who looks more like derren nesbitt). > > > >james dean posters, including rebel, I find very meh. who designed the East >Of >Eden campaign? a monkey who's acquired production stills, scissors, cataracts >and a vendetta by the looks of things. > >it's a wonder these guys became icons at all. this wouldn't have been allowed >to happen in the 1930/40s.... > >n > > > >--- On Wed, 5/1/11, Zeev Drach <[email protected]> wrote: > >From: Zeev Drach <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > >To: [email protected] > >Date: Wednesday, 5 January, 2011, 19:58 > >Dave, > > > >You are so right about the “softness†of most of Brando’s paper, sadly >however, this is true for most of the big names of the 40’s and 50’s. Who >the heck collects Gregory Peck as an actor(as opposed to a couple of titles in >which he’s in) these day? Or Spencer Tracy, or Anthony Quinn, Paul Newman, >Kirk Douglas, or even Clark Gable? And the list goes on and on. They’re >all >giants, we’d all agree, but the number collectors who care about them is >dwindling fast. > >Marlon Brando, I think, could’ve been(and one day might still be) an >exception, because he was an icon while still alive. The added problem with >Brando paper, and now I’m getting back to the original topic, is that the >design of the posters, even and especially for his key titles, is so poor and >uninspiring. You can go over them one by one, Streetcar Named Desire, The >Wild >One, On the Waterfront, and others, and you won’t find even ONE(!) decent >design. > > > >Sorry for going on like this, but that’s obviously a touchy subject with >me.. > ;-) > > > >Zeev > > > > > >From: MoPo List [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Dave Rosen > >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 1:15 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > > > >I agree. Rarity aside, it's all about taste, personal interest and, >ultimately, >how many collectors want it and how far they are willing to go to get it. > > > >Yes, this poster is goofy-looking. Yes, the market for Brando material outside >of Waterfront and Streetcar is a little soft. However, that aside, I have a >number of motorcycle enthusiasts among my clients, as I'm sure do many other >dealers. They like their bikes and they like anything to do with bikes, >including anything to do with biker movies. This was the first biker movie but >it was released with very little paper that actually shows motorcycles! That >reason alone would probably be enough to drive a number of collectors to want >this poster...badly. They don't have to be fans of Brando or even good poster >art. > > > >As to whether it would reach the appraisal estimate, only an auction could >determine that. > > > >Dave > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Richard Evans > >To: [email protected] > >Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:58 PM > >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > > > >Think that goofiness will be a plus for some, got a lot of kitsch appeal. > >Though the irony may wear thin. > > > >On 5 Jan 2011, at 17:40, Kirby McDaniel wrote: > > > > >Hi, Zeev et al > > > >I'm not a collector at all; I'm a seller. I collect other things like >recordings and cookbooks. > >Who knew? > > > >The recovery of any unknown poster is interesting, particularly for a title >like >THE WILD ONE. > >Your DRAGSTRIP RIOT comment is very perceptive -- obviously this poster was >copied from that > >very wonderful image. In RIOT, however, the overall design of the poster, its >context and and the kinetics of the moment depicted make the >wrench-brandishing >exciting and menacing, whereas in the > >Brando poster it's merely goofy. > > > >Please know that I'm not disparaging Rudy's evaluation of the poster. He >could >be quite correct. > >With something that has not been seen, especially for an iconic figure like >Brando, one could > >expect some kind of brisk performance at auction. > > > >One might sell for $3500. > > > >But how would five or six sell? > > > >Would the price hold up as has been demonstrable for, say, DRAGSTRIP RIOT? > > > >Kirby > > > >Kirby McDaniel > >MovieArt Original Film Posters > >P.O. Box 4419 > >Austin TX 78765-4419 > >512 479 6680 www.movieart.net > >mobile 512 589 5112 > > > >On Jan 5, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Zeev Drach wrote: > > > > >Kirby, I’m guessing you’re not a Brando collector, otherwise I can’t see >how you could dismiss this find so easily. > >You are right, the realistic accuracy of the design would not matter to Brando >fans and collectors (and I am one of them) in this case. I mean, the discovery >of a Brando poster, for one of his key roles, that features art that (almost?) >no one has ever seen before is a major find, in my opinion. I think all >collectors with even a passing interest in Brando would be floored by this >poster. > >As to the question “who rides a motorcycle like that?†I refer you to >Dragstrip Riot(1958) >http://www.moviegoods.com/movie_poster/dragstrip_riot_1958.htm > >from where the image was most certainly lifted. > >I’m not familiar with the design of the Hot Blood insert. Is it different >from the standard Wild One insert? > >Zeev > >From: MoPo List [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Kirby >McDaniel > >Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:44 PM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [MOPO] Wild One R60 40x60 - Anyone ever see one? > >Thanks for posting this. I did not see my esteemed colleague Mr. Franchi on >ANTIQUES ROADSHOW with this undeniably rare reissue 40x60, so I am interested >to >read this post. > >Rare it may be, and perhaps some Brando completist would pay the estimate, but >if the design of this poster were to count at all, the film would be entitled >THE WEIRD ONE. > >Who rides a motorcycle like that? Waving a wrench about! Ludicrous! And >where >is the locale? Is this in the film? They look like they're riding thru the >set >of CHEAPER BY THE DOZEN. > >Ugly! Give me one of the nice lobbies and I'll call that the prettiest poster >on the film. Or the HOT BLOOD insert. > >My two centavos. > >Kirby McDaniel > >www.movieart.net > >On Jan 4, 2011, at 9:15 PM, Dave Rosen wrote: > > > > > >Just watched this online. It's Rudy's appraisal of a Wild One 40x60 from last >night's Antiques Roadshow. Never saw one of these before. Might be the best US >paper for the movie. > >http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/201003A12.html > >Dave > >Posteropolis Vintage Movie Posters > >http://www.posteropolis.com/ > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > > > >___________________________________________________________________ > > > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > > > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >___________________________________________________________________ > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >___________________________________________________________________ > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >___________________________________________________________________ >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > >___________________________________________________________________ > >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. 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