I can answer some of these questions
#1 she did not wear any such blouse in To Have and Have Not (I
watched it last week)
#2 she did not wear any such blouse in the Big Sleep (I am the
Raymond Chandler poster collecting King you know)
#3 none of the photos linked by Richard Evans show Bacall in said
striped blouse
so
#4 as a result, any identification of said photo from any specific
film or period is purely conjecture
Rob, the feeling I get is that you want to attribute this photo to a
specific film or period for which you have little or no evidence at
all, as such, attempting to make any attribution without certain
evidence is a dis-service to any customer and I do not think that
your boss Jim Halperin would ask you to claim the photo is anything
other than what is certain - that it is a vintage photograph of
Lauren Bacall from an unspecified film or unspecified period and that
in order for you to attribute it to anything, that you must do
considerably more detective work before making any concrete or even
general claims that is anything other than a photo of Lauren Bacall
I recommend, if you happen to be in the Los Angeles area, to stop by
Eddie Brandt's Saturday Matinee, Roger Sapps Bijou Collectibles or
even Larry Edmonds where you can physically cross reference the photo
with some of the best archives of Hollywood Photography available.
I can also suggest the UCLA archives or the archives of the Academy
of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences which also have huge archives of
Hollywood Photography. Until such investigations can prove without
any doubt what year or film the photo is from, there is nothing shown
here that proves it is anything more than a Hollywood Glamour photo
that isn't connected to any film or specific time period
speaking as a historian of the medium of course.
Rich
At 02:21 PM 12/10/2011, Robert Dennis wrote:
It appears I've found someone else who loves research - this is good stuff!
Robert
--- On Sat, 12/10/11, Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
From: Richard Evans <evan...@blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren
Bacall photo is from?
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 10:12 PM
No doubt that sketch is based on the pic from that series, and the
photo showing the sketch was according to LIFE taken on May 1 1945
at her suite at the Gotham Hotel NY.
<http://www.snapfish.com/Life/fe/p/ext/life/LifeCom?q=image_source~LIFECOM^image_id~50372293>http://www.snapfish.com/Life/fe/p/ext/life/LifeCom?q=image_source~LIFECOM^image_id~50372293
If it was specifically shot for a particular title, couldn't The Big
Sleep come into the mix?
Although not released til 46, shot 44-45 I believe.
From the same session at Gotham Hotel in 45 is this one, showing in
the background the Big Sleep photo:
<http://www.snapfish.com/Life/fe/p/ext/life/LifeCom?q=image_source~LIFECOM^image_id~50372291>http://www.snapfish.com/Life/fe/p/ext/life/LifeCom?q=image_source~LIFECOM^image_id~50372291
Though, when they were polishing Betty into Lauren, wouldn't WB have
been likely to have taken plenty of shots, not necessarily specific
to anything?
Another pic from series here, this time with her cocker spaniel:
<http://dawnschickflicks.blogspot.com/2010/08/lauren-bacall.html>http://dawnschickflicks.blogspot.com/2010/08/lauren-bacall.html
Profiles sold these Bert Six prints attributed to To Have And Have Not:
<http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5467397>http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5467397.
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/5467398
On 10 Dec 2011, at 21:32, Robert Dennis wrote:
Do you think that she would wear the same outfit as the one
referenced by the painting for a later publicity shoot? - It seems
very unlikely.
Respectfully,
Robert
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren
Bacall photo is from?
To:
<http://us.mc845.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 9:28 PM
I disagree Robert
we don't know anything because it isn't strictly indentified to anything
personally I think it looks like her from 1948-1953
it would be a dis-service to any potential buyer to indicate
anything without verifiable proof
Rich
At 01:21 PM 12/10/2011, Robert Dennis wrote:
Of course. But at least I now know the time period of the photo (1944-1945)
Thanks again.
Robert
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren
Bacall photo is from?
To: "Robert Dennis"
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Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 9:00 PM
until the image is properly attributed by proof of other evidence,
it can't be particularly attributed to any film
At 12:42 PM 12/10/2011, Robert Dennis wrote:
That you very much.
As Bacall's second movie, Confidential Agent, was released late
in 1945, then this photo (by Bert Six) was more than likely used
to promote her first movie, To Have and Have Not(?).
Robert
--- On Sat, 12/10/11, Richard Evans
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wrote:
From: Richard Evans
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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this Lauren
Bacall photo is from?
To:
<http://us.mc845.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 8:28 PM
Shot by Nina Leen for Life 1945, in front of sketch based on one
from that series:
<http://kateordie.tumblr.com/post/358074217/lacontessa-lauren-bacall-by-nina-leen-1945>http://kateordie.tumblr.com/post/358074217/lacontessa-lauren-bacall-by-nina-leen-1945
http://stirredstraightup.blogspot.com/2011/03/prints-ess.html
On 10 Dec 2011, at 20:02, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
People, this is a HOLLYWOOD 31, don't forget. And with stills
particularly.
k.
On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Richard Evans wrote:
Looks young, around time of To Have and Have Not I'd guess.
Another one here:
<http://stirredstraightup.blogspot.com/2011/03/prints-ess.html>http://stirredstraightup.blogspot.com/2011/03/prints-ess.html
On 10 Dec 2011, at 17:28, Richard Auras wrote:
interesting... same top and background with different skirt
in this image.
<http://www.posters555.com/Lauren-Bacall/Lauren-Bacall-Z1G308113-Poster.htm>http://www.posters555.com/Lauren-Bacall/Lauren-Bacall-Z1G308113-Poster.htm
I also saw another shoulder-up image with that top but was a
publicity picture in a celebrity magazine. Might not have a
tie to a movie but just a star publicity shoot.
From: Robert Dennis < agraphicstateofm...@verizon.net>
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Sent: Sat, December 10, 2011 10:58:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this
Lauren Bacall photo is from?
She would have been 31 when Blood Alley was released. Don't
you think she looks much younger than that?
Thanks,
Robert
--- On Sat, 12/10/11, Kirby McDaniel <ki...@movieart.net > wrote:
From: Kirby McDaniel <ki...@movieart.net >
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Can anyone identify which movie this
Lauren Bacall photo is from?
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Date: Saturday, December 10, 2011, 4:37 PM
I say that a good guess is BLOOD ALLEY, one of the worst John
Wayne movies.
K.
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On Dec 10, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Robert Dennis wrote:
It has a Warner Bros. stamp on the back but I'm not sure if
it was taken on the set of a particular movie, or was a
random publicity shot of Lauren Bacall:
<http://www.lewiswaynegallery.com/img/_categories/_images/Entertainment_Items/Celebrity_Photographs/3416.jpg>http://www.lewiswaynegallery.com/img/_categories/_images/Entertainment_Items/Celebrity_Photographs/3416.jpg
Thanks for your help.
Robert
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