Grey is right about Registered Mail
people don't realize that every person at the post office that
handles a Registered Mail item must sign a form so that every person
in the chain can be identified if there is a loss and that any
overnight stay it makes at any location, it is either in a vault or a
locked cage that only one person at the post office can access
it's the single way that items over $50,000 can be shipped for
financial security without having a specific insurance rider above
that level in any policy
At 03:23 PM 12/12/2011, Smith, Grey - 1367 wrote:
Exactly, Kirby, third party insurance is the only way when using FedEx.
They have a real self serving deal going by offering insurance on
items they will NOT insure and selling it all the time to the unsuspecting.
I understand Sean made them see it differently on at least one
occasion, if I heard correctly, and think that's great.
How many thousands of people will not protest once the diamond ring
is lost and they have insured it with FedEx thinking all is well?
USPO offers Registered mail which is a very secure method as far as
I'm concerned. It just takes the snail mail time frame, but you can
insure up to hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Kirby McDaniel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:11 PM
To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Absolutely. You have explained it better than I have.
I have never been able to discern WHY they have this policy --- and
NO ONE at Fed Ex -- and I have talked
to some folks very high up the food chain -- has been able to
explain it to me.
Why they care what it is you are sending (as far as valuation goes)
is beyond me. The fee for upper levels of declared value
act just like an insurance premium from what I can see. So why it
makes a difference what is being shipped -- I'm not smart
enough to figure that out.
I think they fear the inside job.
One can get good third party insurance for Fed EX shipments, and
policy holders with Collectibles Insurance can
insure through them - it comes with the policy.
Kirby
On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote:
> You nailed it with FedEx Kirby.
> If you file a claim with them, they are very quick to point out
that they do not offer "insurance" at all (and they point to their
service manual, which they never give you a copy of or have
available to back them up).
>
> They simply have a "declared value" section where they charge you
an additional fee to transport packages that are worth more than $100.00
>
> Of course this doesn't stop their clerks from asking if you would
like to purchase "insurance" for your package.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 05:29 PM
> To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
>
> David, et al
> If a small tax were levied on email and text messages -- and it
wouldn't have to be very large either - the revenues
> could be used to support snail mail 6 days a week for everybody.
And it would help to control spam and frivolous email
> as well.
>
>
> When J Crew, L.L. Bean, Williams-Sonoma, Lands End and all these
other good folks have to hand off that catalog
> delivery business to UPS, then we'll hear a caterwauling for sure.
>
>
> Personally, I really dislike UPS. Here in Austin they simply will
leave a 12 thousand dollar package on your porch whether
> a signature is required or not. Either they just don't care or
their drivers are intentionally ignoring it.
>
>
> FED EX is, of course, quite good where speed is necessary. But
the insurance things with them is not applicable to film posters. I've posted
> about this in the past. If you "insure" a film poster with FED EX
and it gets lost, they are not required to pay you. Because works of art,
> collectibles, jewelry and furs are distinctly excepted from
liability in their service manual.
>
>
> Kirby
> www.movieart.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 12, 2011, at 3:20 PM, David Kusumoto wrote:
>
> I'm a moderate conservative who swings left socially and right
fiscally - yet I agree completely with what Kirby, Franc, Rich and
others have said about how critical it is to preserve our
beleaguered USPS. Free markets cannot apply to a service that by
law, goes EVERYWHERE. Most people don't know the post office gets
its revenue almost ENTIRELY through the sale of postage, NOT tax
dollars. If the post office raised its first class rate for a
one-ounce letter to $1, I would still pay it. The idea that
strangers in USPS uniforms will carry a letter for you for less
than 50 cents - and deliver it to a rural location with a high
degree of reliability - is amazing to me.
>
> I'm also a sucker for the "neither rain, nor sleet nor snow,"
slogan long associated with the USPS. That's what the USPS is all
about. I've been all over the world and in terms of reliability of
delivery, we've got one of the best postal systems anywhere. This
is corny but what Franc wrote about the USPS as part of our
nation's heritage rings true for me. I try my best to greet my
postal carrier every day. Just last week, in the black of night, a
different carrier, a younger woman, came to my door carrying a
large box on her shoulder. She had one of those those beamed LED
lights attached to the front of her cap so she wouldn't fall. She
was late but determined to get through that day's deliveries that
had turned quickly into night. I assessed her situation in a few
seconds and was in awe. And the next day she no doubt went through
the same thing all over again, elsewhere.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:31:22 -0800
> From:sa...@comic-art.com
> Subject: Re: Another fleabay Moron
> To:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU
>
> Kirby is so right about this:
>
>
> At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote:
>
> * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a
business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a
government service. We still need them, despite
> what some who worship the "free" markets think.Visit the MoPo
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