No, the issue is that the items shipped to Heritage in 2010 which were not sold in were never returned, and Heritage claims they don't have them because they're not on the inventory list. Ditto for the items sent in the 2nd batch, which included Get Carter, Lennon & other posters. We are missing multiple posters, including 3 sections of the Deko poster
Heritage thumbs their nose up at us and says, "Prove it..." Issue is that you on MOPO may be treated professional and if the deal is not made, get your stuff back regardless of whether Heritage inventoried them for auction or not. For us -- and I bet for a lot of other newbie, non-dealers -- that is not the case. Look at it hypothetically -- if you receive a batch of posters, but only have to pay for posters you decide to list on an inventory you have created -- isn't that a great way of acquiring product to sell? The Clockwork Orange wasn't on the list.... Doesn't it make you wonder what other posters Heritage chose not to list? And isn't it great if you can take the position of saying to your consignors -- prove it. Prove that you sent us these posters and they were really of that value. For the consignors, it means what? Having photographic proof of what you sent, plus shipping... Then who is to say what was actually in the shipping carton? How does the average non-collector prove they put such and such poster in a box and shipped it. A shipping label? A shipping label proves a package was shipped, not the contents of the box. To alleviate consumer worry and prove their honesty, Heritage proclaims that they have a bonded staff person who receives the items, and two bonded staff people who check and inventory contents. The contents are then safely held in an insured warehouse -- which, in our case, per Grey, was his office. If Heritage's "system" worked, we wouldn't be screaming and wasting our time trying to get back our posters. If Heritage "system" worked, I wouldn't have had to ask multiple times for our posters back, and received a fraction of what we sent. I wouldn't have had to email Grey 6 times asking is he had returned all our posters -- to which he replied "Yes." This leaves us where? In a position of having to prove we sent posters which were not included on Heritage's inventory list. We hired a lawyer to find out who at Heritage was the bonded representative who received and inventoried our poster. ________________________________ From: Bruce Hershenson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Article On Busted Collectibles Mention Movie Posters I am unclear about something. Is this an ongoing legal matter, or has it come to a resolution? Is the crux of the matter that you sent items without receiving an inventory list of what was sent and now they dispute that you ever sent some number of the items. There are just so many details in the below that I have difficulty distilling it down to its essence. Thanks. Bruce On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:02 AM, Geraldine Kudaka <[email protected]> wrote: >Based on your recommendation and reputation, we sent a batch of 30-40+ posters >to Heritage. They sent back an inventory which was a partial list including 10 >posters of the 30-40+ posters we shipped. We called Grey and he said these >were the posters they were going to put up for their March 2010 signature >auction, but that the posters which weren't going up be listed in their print >auction would be safe in their vault. A contract was sent for these 10 >posters. The balance was not sent in an inventory to us. > >We had gotten in touch with Paul Miller of http://www.starwarsmovieposter.com/ >. Paul is the expert on SW posters. He identified a batch of posters we had as >the Deko posters. Of the 30-40+ posters we had sent to heritage, we had >included 3 sections of the Deko 17 section posters. for his help in identifying and organizing our SW posters, we had promised to give Paul 1 of our 2 sets of mint, uncirculated Deko posters. Of course,we didn't have 2 full sets as we had mistakenly sent 3 of a set to Heritage. I called Heritage to inquire about getting back our posters. Heritage pitched us on auction in their weekly the remaining balance of uninventoried posters. > >You, Rudy, got involved and tried to convince us the weekly posters would net >us enough that we should just go with Heritage. In the midst of this >conversation, we also found out a poster we had sent to Heritage -- which was >not on the signed inventory consignment contact -- was valuable -- a 1971 >Clockwork Orange. > >We contacted Heritage and was told the inventoried contract only included >posters which would be listed in the March 2010 auction. > >Being the naive, trusting souls we are, we waited. After the Oct 2010 >signature auction of Clockwork, we received a check for $11,050 as you and Heritage received $1,950 commission on the sale. > >This Clockwork Orange poster was never included in the Feb 2010 inventory -- >just like the Deko posters and 30 other posters. There is not signed contract >we have with Heritage for consigning of selling this poster as Heritage never >inventoried it.... or as far as we known, its never been inventoried, nor have >we signed a consignor agreement for the $13,000 poster. > >Nevertheless, pleased at the sale and believing our unsold lots were safe, we >sent another 30-40+ posters, including a 2nd John Lennon & Get Carter. Charley >and I packed them together. It took the two of us to roll them and secure them >into a shipping tube. Charley then mailed then. > >At 72, Charley is not the same man as he was when he contracted with Kenner to >produce Star Wars toys. He's older, and like a lot of us, has more problems >doing things which came easily to him when he was in his 20-30's. He has memory issues, and it takes him longer to type. > >Several months after shipping the second batch, I emailed Heritage. To make a >long story short, they claim that the only posters they received were 24 >posters they received in an inventory they had gotten from Charley -- which >does not include the Lennon & Get Carter posters.. > >After publicly denoucing Heritage, Grey offered to sell our posters without a >commission. You contacted us and said this was a good deal, we should go with >it. We refused. Grey sent a batch of posters back. It took a lot of emails but >Grey then stated he had returned all of our posters to us. > > >All? Based on an inventory procedure which did not include Clockwork Orange >and the Deko posters? > > > > > > >________________________________ > >From: rudy franchi <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 1:08 AM > >Subject: [MOPO] Article On Busted Collectibles Mention Movie Posters > > >I gave an interview to Business Insider on collectible trends and movie posters >were covered: > >http://tinyurl.com/7q3p988 > > Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com > ___________________________________________________________________ > How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List > > Send a message addressed to: [email protected] > In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L > > The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. > > > >Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com >___________________________________________________________________ >How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List >Send a message addressed to: [email protected] >In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L >The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 26 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. 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