Actually, it's more like Single White Female. FRANC -----Original Message----- From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters
WHY do you want to see the links? I CAN compile them, but it will take a while, and I don't see the value. So explain to me why and then I will see if it is worth my time to do so. And I don't see why you object to me sending MY customers to your website.It is like in Miracle on 34th Street where Macy's sent customers to Gimbel's! Bruce On 6/15/12, Smith, Grey - 1367 <[email protected]> wrote: > Yet we still did not get the links? > > > From: Bruce Hershenson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 12:30 PM > To: Smith, Grey - 1367 > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters > > We mis-auctioned it SEVEN times, and you only did it three times, so > we are over twice as wrong and negligent as you were! We clearly > explained what we did. > > Since you took time to post, will you answer what your policy is in > these cases (will you offer refunds?) and will you correct the > listings in your online results? > > Bruce > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Smith, Grey - 1367 > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Odd as we have no direct > link to the auctions from Emovieposter in which they were incorrectly > sold! Please advise? > > From: MoPo List > [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected] > DU>] > On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 6:51 AM > To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters > > We recently auctioned a French one-panel poster from Blow-Up, and we > said it was from the first 1967 release, and then Thierry Brahme, > co-owner (with Holiday Russell) of All Poster Forum posted thqt it was > a re-release. That set us on a journey researching that poster (and > the ones from the other > releases) and we came up with the following definitive answers (corroborated > by all the leading French poster experts and by the fine research available > on Ed Poole's LAMP site): > > There are three releases, and they look very similar (almost > everything is the same, except the R70s omits the 1967 from the top > Cannes tagline) > > THIS IS ORIGINAL: > "1967" in the top Cannes tagline > "ATELIERS LALANDE 91-WISSOUS - TEL 920.98.75.76" > > THIS IS R69: > "1967" in the top Cannes tagline > "LALANDE COURBET 91-WISSOUS" > > THIS IS R70s: > NO "1967" in the top Cannes tagline > "Ste EXPL Ets LALANDE COURBET 91-WISSOUS" > > You can see a visual comparison here: > http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/blowup_research_reference_images.jp > g > > Now the above information showed we had just auctioned a R69 as an > original, so of course we then contacted that buyer and told them what > had happened and cancelled the sale. > > We next went over our ENTIRE history of every auctioning versions of > this French poster, and discovered that we have only once had an > original, and that there were 4 times where we incorrectly identified > a R69 as original and three times where we incorrectly identified a > R70s as a R69 (because we were given erroneous information some years > ago that led us astray). > > Fortunately, we keep accurate records of every past sale, so we > contacted those 7 buyers and offered to take back the seven posters > for a full refund (including shipping both ways so they lose nothing) > or to make a partial refund if the price they paid was too high based > on the false info, EVEN IF YEARS HAVE GONE BY, and we long ago paid > the consignors. > > Once we have heard from all the buyers we will likely lose many > hundreds of dollars, but it is well worth it, because it lets our > buyers know just how much we stand behind everything we sell! > > We then took a quick look at the Internet to see if we could find > other examples that were being sold incorrectly. We found that Dave > Lieberman of Cinemasterpieces had one for sale that was a R69 but was > incorrectly identified as original, and we contacted him, and he > promptly corrected it. > > We went to Heritage's archive on their site, and discovered that they > obviously had incorrect information (like we did) but they had > DIFFERENT incorrect information than we did, resulting in their > selling three different posters, one from each release, and > identifying them incorrectly every time. > > This is the original that they sold as R70s: > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216&lotNo=53072>http:// > movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216&lotNo=53072<http://moviepo > sters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216&lotNo=53072%3Ehttp://movieposters > .ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216&lotNo=53072> > > This is the R69 that they sold as 1966: > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=693&lotNo=65245>http://mov > ieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=693&lotNo=65245<http://movieposters. > ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=693&lotNo=65245%3Ehttp://movieposters.ha.com/c > /item.zx?saleNo=693&lotNo=65245> > > This is the R70s that they sold as R69: > http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=58024&lotNo=54052>http://m > ovieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=58024&lotNo=54052<http://moviepost > ers.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=58024&lotNo=54052%3Ehttp://movieposters.ha > .com/c/item.zx?saleNo=58024&lotNo=54052> > > Now hopefully they will go back and contact the two buyers to whom > they sold they posters they incorrectly identified (there is no need > to contact the third one, the one who got an original incorrectly > marked as a re-release, because that person got an incredible buy and > is surely happy!). But they may or may not have a policy of doing > this. If they are followers of "buyer beware", which so many auctions > are, then those buyers are simply out of luck. > > I also don't know if they will go into their online archive and > correct the above mistakes, as we do. We always correct any errors in > our database, and remove all sales where the buyer never paid or they > returned the items, to keep our database super accurate, but it takes > a lot of time and money to do so. > > IF ANYONE READING THIS OWNS AN EXAMPLE OF A FRENCH BLOW-UP POSTER, > THEN YOU SHOULD TAKE IT OUT AND CHECK TO SEE WHICH RELEASE YOU HAVE. > If you were incorrectly sold a re-release as either an original or as > the wrong re-release, then contact the person or auction you bought if > from and ask for a refund or a price adjustment. > > Thanks much to Thierry Brahme, Ed Poole and others who helped in this > research. > -- > Bruce Hershenson and the other 26 members of the eMoviePoster.com team > P.O. 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