Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or mentally disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,

Mon, 20 Oct 2014 12:48:49 -0700

well written and informed Peter ! I have watched a little as Im On David susukis Daughter severns page on facebook... Its hard to follow as between the Brazil issue and Canada issues the naitives are getting a sham job over palm oil and this Canada oil in the north.. then we get into GMOs with Monsanto which seems most believe is the issue in Foods and runoff of chemicals. I am not a rocket scientist but have seen many of the results of industry left uncontrolled.. PCBs, nuke waste, you name it Dupont was a bock away from my building and teledyne ke who ake the missles in secret like a mile away,,,so that said// the released vapors from Dupont would burn our eyeys and they would releae it at dark night when peopel where asleep or little traffic..Industrial waste is catching up with us all/// as to my religious comments its simply when asking why??? its like its the only data ive found that explains what has and is and will happen...by the time Goverments and others agree on a plann and solution Im afraid it will be too late... if not already...just as the elderly who lost out in 2008 wont be getting a new home or thier retirement replaced anytime soon... so we either start over... or consider maybe what Christ stated was truth...I dont see any religious group as wrong... i think its the peopel that are wrong and thats in all groups including many Christaind that despise Jews and moslems and buddahs.. when I look Christ said Love everyone.. not just christian and to help everyone everywhere... thats what I hear in hisi words..remember two thieve where at his side when he was killed...whenthey said they would never make it he said tody you will be in paridise with me.. also I find the immigrationthing wild... as if you consider mexicans wanting to be here wasnt most of the west and texas actually Mexicao originally?? and aztecs and other naitive?? where do we get off saying its Ours??? we stole it and paid some mahatten indians in beads for it... It was mostly a bunch of UK guys that took it or " settled It" because a "Italian" Chris columbus thought he found a ne trade route to India...OK>> well so now we tell peopel no more can come here...... I dont get it we all came here by a boat...my folks from sisily and Bermuda.. via UK and scotland and portugal. this is land of the free not enslaved and free also to pray to God, or the diety of your choice...I sure hope we never forget that,,as far as Gays and women and minorities as far as I read Christ said LOve everyone with no limits and he even seemed to be with some pretty wild people.. as he came to help everyone not just any certain group. when I see so called Christians seething with hate against many people I understand why christ said forgive them father as they dont know what they do..that sums up how I also feel.. Peace and Love 
t
On 2014-10-20 13:19, peter contarino wrote:
Let me give you some understanding about the Kyoto protocol and the issues 
the US had with it Filip.
Under Bill Clinton 1997, the Senate voted 95-0 that it was not in our best interest to participate in this. This was a unanimous vote by both parties called the Byrd-Hagel act. The primary concern was that it was not binding for all nations, most notably China(the worst polluter in history) and India and would not be in the interest of the US economically(which is one of the things political leaders are mandated under our Constitution to do). A year later in typical weasel fashion, Gore signed it but Clinton never submitted it to the Senate for ratification. This was political theater on Clinton's part so he could say he supported it and people like yourself, in the future and ignorant of the facts, would have a tourette seizure whenever this was 
brought up.

Bush later came up with the same conclusion although he did publicly
recognize that GHG were in fact a legitimate issue and signed the
Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate. This Act is of 
course more bullshit theater as there is no enforcing body.
So basically neither party under either president wanted anything to do with 
this.
Regarding DOHA, there are many countries involved and so many issues such as agricultural subsidies, trade restrictions, industrial tariffs, and so on that no one can agree on anything. Obama has said it should be pursued (or something nebulous) but also said there is not enough on the table for the U.S. This is another example of kicking the issue down the road. It's such WTO muddle-headed dreck that it is hard to even get a grasp on what exactly 
they expect to accomplish.

With regards to Tom's other comments, I see them as someone who is
expressing his religious beliefs, perhaps in a proselytizing manner but so what. Is that a reason to attack him and Christians(or any religious group 
for that matter) in such a sweeping, generalized manner?

-Peter






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Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or mentally
disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,
good points/// i agree Man has screwed everything up.. and your signings where man made.. until men all change thier hearts and attitudes nothing will change,, also I agree its true all the disease is here,, and also all 
the solutions both medical and climate ect.. again its men that are
deforestation, water and air issues..caused by lack of concern for other men and women// unless we all unite in a common goal it appears to me its pretty 
clear we are about at the end of mankind...
unless you believe some laws and protocal will change 2000 years of mankinds abuse of the world.. as far as why God would allow it?? he also states that many will come in his name but be wolves in sheeps clothing... and so thats why we have many using him as a moneymaking gimmick and taking advantage of 
the weak , poor and sick,, again this was all foretold... many say God
should come down Fix everything and destroy those that are evil... Ok.. well thats about everyone right?? as we all have missed the boat..so the plan as I undesrstand it was to allow man to get itself together by choice- free will...as that would be the best way instead of robots or slaves/// Lookk I am nota preacher , or a messenger or anything.. But I can see it dont look good and is getting crazier by the day... so I consider that what that Guy said 2000 years ago was valid and so Im going with that myself.. and asking 
that others be helped also but maybe im wrong and maybe in a few years
everything will be ok and the climate will be corrected and no more wars and the banks will help the poor everyone.and all the worlds people will sing in harmony....or........its about 5 till 12 and its about the last hour/// its really up to you as a individual to make that choice and either fix it or change ways or like me ask God to direct you as I am trying.. the hard part for me is faith..and belief that hes really there and coming back,,,, 
but what other choices do we have...??
science, government medical and pharma??? we cant even stop illegal
immigrants and pot - which it seems many want anyways..so guess we will all 
see what happens..so far its been following what was foretold to the
T...just look and see..however the big picture has a good ending so I just 
hope thats true. for everyone


On 2014-10-20 01:29, filip de volder wrote:

how interesting , not so long ago george bush and his fellow demented
fundamentalist so-called christians refused to sign the kyoto protocol
because god gave this planet to mankind and so all that's done is gods
will (besides taking ecological steps would damage the american
economy right , which is why Doha didn't get signed either ? ) , and
you want to prey and ask that same so-called god for help ?
and didn't your almighty god create everything , including ebola ?
But then as far as your religion goes i'm not an expert as i don't
have a degree in psychiatry filip


Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:01:06 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or mentally

disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,

To: [email protected]

so mopo its almost halloweeen,,, and many of you like Horror right??



you buy spooky art posters and all... you like Hitch, King, and all

the

rest... but do you really want to be scared?? if so read this if

not,,,

well move along..
I used to be like you and contemplated everything until I saw that

it

was pretty useless... basically we know nothing... its all hocus
pocus... why everyone drinks is on prozac and the like is we cant

find

logical answers,,, unless like me you saw OK God I surrender to ou

.. do

your will... In which a college educated typical person will say..."



think critcal" and say that there is no climate change and that
everything can be controlled by man.......well if like me you see

thats

as nuts as thinking we are able to stop ebola .. read on...If you

look

in the bible revelation it shows exactly teh script what has been
happing and clearly states NO man will no when the end is near NO

ONE..

but we will see the signs like climate and wars and signs and

disesase

and etc... it said the water will become like poisin well ths summer



InToledo they shut off our water... was it a Gove test for the

coming

senerio? was it real....? who knows but I saw panic over water

300,00

peopel fightingoverwater.... what if it was food, medical..?? it

wont be

pretty
meanwhile... like a cheap movie script by corman or romerao. we get
ebola,,,, now consider this... its geting to the health care workers



themselves... and can travel fast on stuff like materials and all...

so

consider whats passed around the most..// MONEY? kinda symbolic

eh...

all the terrorists need to do is spread alitlle atround and the

entire

country is toast,,, doe s not take a rocket scientist,,, right now
peopel are in denial... as it wont come here its containable.. well

if

you watch the news the rate of transfer is fast as peopel that are
exposed to one then expose to manty and if you add intentional

threats

by others,, think a terrorits now doesnt need a bomb.. they can

simple

walk in a city and expose everyone...so see why I think God is the

only

answer as even history showed us that plagues where the toughist,,,

even

in moses time.. in middle ages and now...you cant protect against

what

you cant even see or know is even there... consider the common

cold..

they have never been able to stop that and Flu and colds are

viris...so

the ebola is like a super viris that can travel on just the medical
equipment and gowns... now that out rivals any movie script evere

and is

whats actually hapening now...
so what can we do?,,, wellfor my frienda and family and peopel like

you

ILL prya we all find safety. peace and a solution as this is some
serious matters ... as I see our air, water, and climate and food

system

is in deep peril..so be carefull as this last part ofthe ride may

get

real bumpy folks.. God bless... Btw way to furthur prove.... I met a

guy

the other day whuo had some projectors .. well his business was also



disater reaction relief from disasters and he has all the clearance

on

cdc stuff .. he said they are not prepared for anything like ebola//

so

basicall we are on our own.. ive hear rumors that the Gov might
quaratine peopel in the FEma cammps who are supected of the

virus..and

that could end up with cival unrest and hence martial Law.... so be
prepared as thsoe that have Guns and bug out bags and stuffwill be

very

agressive if the Gov starts doing that.. lets hope calm minds

prevail...

personally I am asking God for help...take care

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