Peter , i'm expressing my opinion , to me religion (style "i pray
to go god" , "i have faith in god" " god will save us " and what
else) falls Under the domain of psychiatry .
If there were a muslim poster collector on this forum rambling
about allah all hell would break out right ?
and yet both allah and this christian god are products of mental
illness .
As far as i know this is a movie poster forum , i didn't bring up
any religious issues , i just said what i thought about it in
reaction to what i read in a public message on this movie poster
forum .
filip
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:19:27 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or
mentally disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,
To: [email protected]
Let me give you some understanding about the Kyoto protocol and
the issues
the US had with it Filip.
Under Bill Clinton 1997, the Senate voted 95-0 that it was not
in our best
interest to participate in this. This was a unanimous vote by
both parties
called the Byrd-Hagel act. The primary concern was that it was
not binding
for all nations, most notably China(the worst polluter in
history) and India
and would not be in the interest of the US economically(which is
one of the
things political leaders are mandated under our Constitution to
do). A year
later in typical weasel fashion, Gore signed it but Clinton
never submitted
it to the Senate for ratification. This was political theater on
Clinton's
part so he could say he supported it and people like yourself,
in the future
and ignorant of the facts, would have a tourette seizure
whenever this was
brought up.
Bush later came up with the same conclusion although he did
publicly
recognize that GHG were in fact a legitimate issue and signed
the
Asia-Pacific Partnership on Clean Development and Climate. This
Act is of
course more bullshit theater as there is no enforcing body.
So basically neither party under either president wanted
anything to do with
this.
Regarding DOHA, there are many countries involved and so many
issues such as
agricultural subsidies, trade restrictions, industrial tariffs,
and so on
that no one can agree on anything. Obama has said it should be
pursued (or
something nebulous) but also said there is not enough on the
table for the
U.S. This is another example of kicking the issue down the road.
It's such
WTO muddle-headed dreck that it is hard to even get a grasp on
what exactly
they expect to accomplish.
With regards to Tom's other comments, I see them as someone who
is
expressing his religious beliefs, perhaps in a proselytizing
manner but so
what. Is that a reason to attack him and Christians(or any
religious group
for that matter) in such a sweeping, generalized manner?
-Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Tom
Martin
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or
mentally
disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,
good points/// i agree Man has screwed everything up.. and your
signings
where man made.. until men all change thier hearts and attitudes
nothing
will change,, also I agree its true all the disease is here,,
and also all
the solutions both medical and climate ect.. again its men that
are
deforestation, water and air issues..caused by lack of concern
for other men
and women// unless we all unite in a common goal it appears to
me its pretty
clear we are about at the end of mankind...
unless you believe some laws and protocal will change 2000 years
of mankinds
abuse of the world.. as far as why God would allow it?? he also
states that
many will come in his name but be wolves in sheeps clothing...
and so thats
why we have many using him as a moneymaking gimmick and taking
advantage of
the weak , poor and sick,, again this was all foretold... many
say God
should come down Fix everything and destroy those that are
evil... Ok.. well
thats about everyone right?? as we all have missed the boat..so
the plan as
I undesrstand it was to allow man to get itself together by
choice- free
will...as that would be the best way instead of robots or
slaves/// Lookk I
am nota preacher , or a messenger or anything.. But I can see it
dont look
good and is getting crazier by the day... so I consider that
what that Guy
said 2000 years ago was valid and so Im going with that myself..
and asking
that others be helped also but maybe im wrong and maybe in a few
years
everything will be ok and the climate will be corrected and no
more wars and
the banks will help the poor everyone.and all the worlds people
will sing
in harmony....or........its about 5 till 12 and its about the
last hour///
its really up to you as a individual to make that choice and
either fix it
or change ways or like me ask God to direct you as I am trying..
the hard
part for me is faith..and belief that hes really there and
coming back,,,,
but what other choices do we have...??
science, government medical and pharma??? we cant even stop
illegal
immigrants and pot - which it seems many want anyways..so guess
we will all
see what happens..so far its been following what was foretold to
the
T...just look and see..however the big picture has a good ending
so I just
hope thats true. for everyone
On 2014-10-20 01:29, filip de volder wrote:
how interesting , not so long ago george bush and his fellow
demented
fundamentalist so-called christians refused to sign the kyoto
protocol
because god gave this planet to mankind and so all that's done
is gods
will (besides taking ecological steps would damage the
american
economy right , which is why Doha didn't get signed either ? )
, and
you want to prey and ask that same so-called god for help ?
and didn't your almighty god create everything , including
ebola ?
But then as far as your religion goes i'm not an expert as i
don't
have a degree in psychiatry filip
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 22:01:06 -0400
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MOPO] Scarey story- not for small children or
mentally
disturbed adults.. warning may cause anxiety,
To: [email protected]
so mopo its almost halloweeen,,, and many of you like Horror
right??
you buy spooky art posters and all... you like Hitch, King,
and all
the
rest... but do you really want to be scared?? if so read this
if
not,,,
well move along..
I used to be like you and contemplated everything until I saw
that
it
was pretty useless... basically we know nothing... its all
hocus
pocus... why everyone drinks is on prozac and the like is we
cant
find
logical answers,,, unless like me you saw OK God I surrender
to ou
.. do
your will... In which a college educated typical person will
say..."
think critcal" and say that there is no climate change and
that
everything can be controlled by man.......well if like me you
see
thats
as nuts as thinking we are able to stop ebola .. read on...If
you
look
in the bible revelation it shows exactly teh script what has
been
happing and clearly states NO man will no when the end is
near NO
ONE..
but we will see the signs like climate and wars and signs and
disesase
and etc... it said the water will become like poisin well ths
summer
InToledo they shut off our water... was it a Gove test for
the
coming
senerio? was it real....? who knows but I saw panic over
water
300,00
peopel fightingoverwater.... what if it was food, medical..??
it
wont be
pretty
meanwhile... like a cheap movie script by corman or romerao.
we get
ebola,,,, now consider this... its geting to the health care
workers
themselves... and can travel fast on stuff like materials and
all...
so
consider whats passed around the most..// MONEY? kinda
symbolic
eh...
all the terrorists need to do is spread alitlle atround and
the
entire
country is toast,,, doe s not take a rocket scientist,,,
right now
peopel are in denial... as it wont come here its
containable.. well
if
you watch the news the rate of transfer is fast as peopel
that are
exposed to one then expose to manty and if you add
intentional
threats
by others,, think a terrorits now doesnt need a bomb.. they
can
simple
walk in a city and expose everyone...so see why I think God
is the
only
answer as even history showed us that plagues where the
toughist,,,
even
in moses time.. in middle ages and now...you cant protect
against
what
you cant even see or know is even there... consider the
common
cold..
they have never been able to stop that and Flu and colds are
viris...so
the ebola is like a super viris that can travel on just the
medical
equipment and gowns... now that out rivals any movie script
evere
and is
whats actually hapening now...
so what can we do?,,, wellfor my frienda and family and
peopel like
you
ILL prya we all find safety. peace and a solution as this is
some
serious matters ... as I see our air, water, and climate and
food
system
is in deep peril..so be carefull as this last part ofthe ride
may
get
real bumpy folks.. God bless... Btw way to furthur prove....
I met a
guy
the other day whuo had some projectors .. well his business
was also
disater reaction relief from disasters and he has all the
clearance
on
cdc stuff .. he said they are not prepared for anything like
ebola//
so
basicall we are on our own.. ive hear rumors that the Gov
might
quaratine peopel in the FEma cammps who are supected of the
virus..and
that could end up with cival unrest and hence martial Law....
so be
prepared as thsoe that have Guns and bug out bags and
stuffwill be
very
agressive if the Gov starts doing that.. lets hope calm minds
prevail...
personally I am asking God for help...take care
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