Really, expectation of capitalism to be more benign here?

Hadn't noticed that.

I just think most people don't see it as such a big deal, especially if you 
break it down to what it will actually mean.




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> On 18 Jun 2016, at 18:04, Tommy Barr <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Just to say that, whether or not I agree with his response,  I am pleased 
> that Grey offered one, and I thank him for that. I think there appears to be 
> a European versus US difference in attitudes here - the US one being 'taking 
> care of business' while the Europeans expect their capitalism to be a bit 
> more considerate of the client. 
> 
> Tommy
> 
>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Phillip Ayling <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Grey,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks so much for chiming in and offering an “official” response. It is 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Smith, 
>> Grey - 1367
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 7:13 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage charges
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Sorry for the delay in responding. I’ve been preparing my July catalog so my 
>> time on MOPO has been reduced. I think that many of the answers that you’ve 
>> read from some MOPO members here are indeed correct. Heritage made the 
>> decision to raise its minimum Buyer’s Premium on lots selling below $100 
>> which, by the way, I argued against, but which the executive team believed 
>> necessary due to our expense structure.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Frankly, to believe that we have little expense involved in selling these 
>> posters other than just “listing material” is a bit naïve. Heritage employs 
>> roughly 500 personnel in over ten cities with showrooms and overhead in the 
>> US, Europe and Asia. We have 30 web programmers and IT staff alone, along 
>> with accounting, photography, legal, marketing, etc. Saying this was done 
>> out of greed is again unfair; Heritage did it so that it could continue to 
>> offer lower priced lots singly rather than in bulk without losing money on 
>> them.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Posters selling for less than $100 are limited in each weekly, but some of 
>> our buyers really appreciate being able to buy just the posters they want 
>> rather than having to buy groups. And I think nearly all of our consignors 
>> prefer to sell their posters either singly or in the smallest groups 
>> possible. Of course any consignors who prefer not having the $19 come into 
>> play with their lots can ask us to group-lot any posters we think might sell 
>> for less than $100, and we will happily do so.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> The buyer’s premium, as stated well by David, is indeed prominently 
>> displayed whenever you wish to make a bid or to raise a bid. There is 
>> nothing deceptive nor mysterious about that, in my opinion, and as stated so 
>> well by Rich, it is the buyer’s choice to accept or not.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I don’t believe I have more to say concerning this and for those who feel it 
>> is an undue increase or financial burden to them, I regret that, because I 
>> do care very much about my buyers (and consignors).
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> But again, the bottom line is that it was the only way Heritage management 
>> could justify our continuing to offer posters valued under $100, without 
>> automatically auctioning them in bulk lots that would bring at least $100 
>> hammer per lot.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: MoPo List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of filip de 
>> volder
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 6:52 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage charges
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> exactely Tommy ,  it's like they're taking some insurance but it gets paid 
>> by the  buyer 
>> 
>> so if others bid besides you and it goes just over what heritage fixes then 
>> you'll be paying less then winning the poster just under that fixed line and 
>> getting taxed 19$ ?
>> 
>> If Bruce can run auctions the way he does with everything starting at 1$  
>> and continually keep his business growing then i think the only word here 
>> with this 19$ policy is greed , i guess heritage suffers from the ebay 
>> syndrome , keep on pushing to see how far it bends without snapping in your 
>> face 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> filip
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 23:07:08 +0100
>> From: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Heritage charges
>> To: [email protected]
>> 
>> Sorry, but that's missing the point. HA do not have to sell posters for low 
>> amounts, they are choosing to do it, and then asking the buyer to pay for 
>> their decision. If I want to sell a poster for $10 I don't say the poster 
>> will cost you $10 but I also want a further $19 for my trouble.I could try 
>> selling it for a fixed price of $29 but if that is way above its market 
>> value who is going to buy it?  Anyway, I have bought and own the poster and 
>> hope someone else might want it, unlike HA who have no outlay other than the 
>> cost of listing the item. They are attracting consignors with low value 
>> posters because they know that even if the consignor only makes a few cents 
>> they will still make quite big bucks. No reason why they shouldn't, indeed, 
>> just as there is no reason why the collector should avoid such one-sided 
>> business practice.  And, as I said before, the silence from HA on this forum 
>> is quite deafening.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tommy
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> David is correct.  Who wants to work for NOTHING?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Thanks, David.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kirby McDaniel
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2016, at 4:37 PM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Have read all comments I guess the overriding point is going to be one of 
>> cost. Like everyone, it costs the same to handle a $200 poster as it does a 
>> $20 and so rather than turn away business at the bottom end HA are are 
>> simply going to charge you for it - why shouldn't they? How many dealers 
>> sell posters for a $1, and are happy to do so?
>> 
>> I bet there is very few, most would not even bother stocking a $1 poster let 
>> alone selling one. Try selling a poster on eBay for $1 - by the time eBay 
>> take their slice of the action, the cost of materials, your time what's left 
>> for you?
>> For others who sell via their websites you probably already know you can set 
>> a minimum purchase value on the shopping cart - if you have set one then 
>> what's the difference between you and HA?
>> It's expensive to sell stuff cheap.
>> 
>> 
>> David
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tommy Barr wrote on 16/06/2016 7:21 PM:
>> 
>> Just noticed that from this weekend Heritage Auctions is charging a minimum 
>> buyer's commission of $19, an increase of 36%. I just wonder how they 
>> justify that?
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Tommy
>> 
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