Agree with you, Kirb. I still have a pair of giant JBL speakers I bought in 1984 for $300 each and they still sound like a million bucks. Worth every penny and they were obviously built to last.
By the way the colleague who put me in my place is a woman, a whip smart mother of two who's also a marketing and advertising executive who is a big movie nut like all of us. To be fair, in response to my "1939" retort (which I delivered with a smirk), she said "touchè." Point taken. I think she took my criticisms of "Avatar" as an attack on her parenting and / or an attack on her kids' tastes. She was just defending people who love "Avatar." She is not an overt social justice warrior. - d. From: Kirby McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 10:35 PM Subject: Re: How often do you attend theaters to watch movies vs. Netflix/HBO - and why? To: [email protected] I think the movie lovers of my generation were particularly wowed - as it was intended - by the higher fidelity, both audio and video - of 70mm. There were those high frequencies and that bass in the audio, not to mention the perspective of six track multichannel sound. And that detail in picture. It was such an immersive CONTRAST from the AM radio-like soundtracks and normal 35mm resolution. It was COMPARED. It wowed me. Similarly I was wowed by HIFI. There are audiophiles today that quibble over super-great sound and ultra-great sound. But to the younger set, it ALL just is they way it is. (And yes their ears are somewhat unschooled. But even your tableside Bose Radio would have sounded like a gift from heaven in 1955.) Just a thought, David. But your colleague, to my mind, was full of himself! Kirby On Dec 19, 2017, at 10:24 PM, David Kusumoto <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: * For all of the complaints about movie-going, e.g., high prices, obnoxious patrons, smaller screens, etc. - in my view, they mostly represent the aggrieved feelings of people over fifty years of age. Every generation weathers this, complaining themselves into irrelevancy with product makers, e.g., that big box named Hollywood - about "how things are" vs. "how things used to be," esp. in relation to the young - that prized bracket with whom we all used to belong - so loyal and willing to stand (or to sit) - in long lines in horrible weather to see each week's new release - to the delight of studios and to the chagrin of parents - who can't stop remarking about how our kids' taste in art, music and culture - are mindless fads to be forgotten one year hence. How were we different? * The drive-in-theater speaker might be looked upon as a sentimental artifact of post-war youth. The rest of the world views it as a primitive, low-fidelity curio - akin to how some of us view the Gramophones of our "ancestors." Our nostalgia is not your child's - nor your child's child - and so on. I still remember having my snobby head handed to me when I was highly critical of "Avatar," saying it was a cartoon version of "Dances with Wolves" - and then being sternly told off by a colleague - "So what. Kids don't know Dances with Wolves nor should they. Not every movie has to be a history lesson nor a reference point from a book they're forced to read. Most art is derivative, few things are original and it's why the list of masterpieces is mercifully short." * My retort was rather weak: "Uh, yeah. But there was the matter of 1939." - d. P.S. - I jam most all of my movie-going during awards season. I haven't stood in a long line to see the opening of an adventure or an action film in decades. I'm well over 50. Prices have gone up, obnoxious patrons are still present - but the views from my stadium seat are superior. "Dunkirk" screened in 70mm in a few places. I was excited. To everyone else, I sounded like a dude obsessed with ancient technology - and they gave me that blank look that forewarns, "Please don't try to convince me it was better. You sound like Methuselah." -d. From: MoPo List <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Roland Lataille <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 7:10 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: How often do you attend theaters to watch movies vs. Netflix/HBO - and why? Last movie I watched in a movie theatre was The Walk at the LA Chinese Imax theatre. Never been inside the theatre before. I have a home theatre room with a 138 inch wide image from my Panasonic AE8000 3D projector and 5.1 sound system so, why go to a theatre? From: Alan Heimann <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] How often do you attend theaters to watch movies vs. Netflix/HBO - and why? Responding to another point in the original query..watching movies particularly on TCM has motivated me to persu buying posters for movies ive really enjoyed On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 8:50 PM MoviePoster Collectors <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Alamo Drafthouse hee-lariously ejected a texter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3eeC2lJZs<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D1L3eeC2lJZs&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb6bf118713da4e68eee308d547575cc0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636493362896373045&sdata=zxG6jPWuiAMmglsKc1y6fOx3%2FNtLFni3Lo1MC0ei%2Fjo%3D&reserved=0> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Glenn Taranto <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I have found that going to the ArcLight cinemas lends itself to an audience interested in behaving. Most likely because they charge a little bit more so you aren't bombarded with annoying ads before the film. All they show are trailers. Also they don't let anyone in ten minutes after the movie has started. GT On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:01 PM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Regarding that issue that Robert mentioned about rude audiences in theaters. Alamo Drafthouse here in Austin keeps audiences polite by throwing out disrupters, texters, talkers. It works too. On Dec 19, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Glenn Taranto <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I mostly watch movies at home. I am privy to numerous free screenings through the WGA and SAG. I also pay to see some films. Generally those are the ones I feel warrant a big screen/audience experience. Hanging out with friends after a film and discussing it over dinner afterward is part of that experience. Since the advent of big screens for the home I confess I am less inclined to see the average film at a theater. GT On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 12:20 PM, MPC <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Ha, both of my assistants have/use VCRs, which became obsolete 20 years ago! Ticket prices have been stable, inflation-adjusted: http://www.natoonline.org/data/ticket-price/<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.natoonline.org%2Fdata%2Fticket-price%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb6bf118713da4e68eee308d547575cc0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636493362896373045&sdata=xow1nFm3HeQeiBNV0NvgcSRJWI%2B%2F3vAKWgA33ShwDq4%3D&reserved=0> Sent from my iPad On Dec 19, 2017, at 9:47 AM, Kirby McDaniel <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Througout the VHS era I was contemptuous of home video because of the poor picture quality and, initially at least, the sound was mono. DVD raised the bar a bit. Blu-Ray and 4K and the fact that I am fortunate enough to own an Oppo to play them and an LG OLED TV, clearly one of the best screens I have ever seen, have really meant that I see more films at home than I do in theaters. Still, I think you get something at the theaters that you will never get at home. You don’t have to answer the phone or the front door. The screen is big. The audience is live and experiencing the film with you. In my opinion, ticket prices at the theaters are too high. Do any of the rest of you feel that way? Kirby McDaniel movieart.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmovieart.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cb6bf118713da4e68eee308d547575cc0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636493362896373045&sdata=vaq0MYgUe%2B2R0kIrc8OPDvLw%2BNwFj0zjzMFl0uhg5rY%3D&reserved=0> On Dec 19, 2017, at 5:01 AM, MoviePoster Collectors <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I watched tons o' movies when I was a youngling, but I'm 49 now and my entire post-college life have attended a movie theater once/twice a year, if that much. I never paid for cable TV and have never used a DVR, so rarely watched them at home. Now that I'm not working I'm the King of Free Time and have hitch-hiked to theaters to see "fun"/roller-coaster thrills/sci-fi movies like: Blade Runner 2049 (twice) Wonder Woman (twice) SW:TLJ (this week, partly spoiled after I unwisely skimmed a negative user review) Murder on the Orient Express Close Encounters 40th Justice League I also feel obligated to support historical films in theaters: Dunkirk Darkest Hour (future) The Post (future) The gameplan was to watch lotsa movies on pretty-cheap streaming services like Netflix/HBO/etc. but so far I've only watched a grand total of two (Wizard of Lies/DeNiro and SW:R1). Why? Too busy entertaining/terrorizing several online forums and watching 3-4 hours per day of MSNBC news shows and infotainment shows like The Today Show. How about you - and also does watching movies motivate you to buy the MP (yes, almost always for me)? -- Mel S. 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