Tom ,  let  us  bible-thumping evangelicals sharing our love of God on this 
movie poster list  take it to the right place :


https://www.christianforums.com/threads/no-love-for-god.8004977/


Now , don't fuck it up there by offering  a stack of monthy python's meaning of 
life posters including free unused theater tickets for  satanic rites of 
dracula .

Blasphemy and Contempt of Christianity

It is considered blasphemy to insult or mock Christianity or any part of the 
Trinity-Father (God), Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit. Honest debate about the 
nature of God and Christian Theology is allowed, but derogatory remarks are 
not. Contemptuous remarks regarding Christianity or Christian practices are not 
allowed.




________________________________
From: Kirby McDaniel <ki...@movieart.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 8:35 PM
To: filip de volder; Tom Martin
Cc: MOPO
Subject: OFF MOVIE POSTER TOPIC: Re: [MOPO] mope/ot-the movie industry state of 
affairs

Tom et al,
I’m no bible-thumping evangelical, but anytime you do "overcome" your own 
anger, fears, hate, pride and ego, you are in tune with God, the cosmos, 
providence, WHATEVER you’d like to call her!

Kirby McDaniel
MovieArt Austin


On Jul 7, 2018, at 12:54 PM, filip de volder 
<runbuffy...@hotmail.com<mailto:runbuffy...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


ok , so we're spoiled babies when we're using human logic instead of god logic ?

what an idiot i've been trying to think logical ,  there i was , writing  
readable and existing  words , putting them in the right order  so they make  a 
phrase one can understand and yet i was wrong ! with god logic mpo gtraeds so 
moich futhojer butintke ens whoorelpo givez a fick ?



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Subject: Re: [MOPO] mope/ot-the movie industry state of affairs

not at all..just had this conversation thisam witha cousin..i said i
know i am a nut..hat  worries me...and so each time i overcome myown
anger,my own fears, myownhate.my own pride, ego..etc..I feel i am intune
with God..
wheni  see kindness, courage..likehow elon musk is sendinga team of
engineets to help the kids inthecave inthialand....i se go working
through a man....wheni see people stand up to tyranny i se God....wheni
se people share, people careabout animals,water, elderly.children...I se
god at work...
I think God is the most awesome beautiful plan  ever and make sense its
just veryhard to learn the lessons as we tendto bespoiled babies anduse
human logic instead of God logic...sameinMovies...i hink filmmakers see
whati am thinking thats why the paradigm is changing..open ende scripts
are not hip anymore..kids and aduclt want storys that inspire ,uplift
and show how we can overcome adversity not creat more....we see that
hate and destruction solves nothing...but surenderlove andcmpassion
fufils Gods plan....

yet God teaches us life has so many greyparts...and whenwe open ou
mindand souls to see that we all have the same complex familys .issues
and its all big misunderstandings..
thats why I feel for all sides both dem and repub as we areall in the
world one big dna family...just veryconfused butall brothers and sisters
really...lve is the key and solution to everything...and its taken me 62
years to se how simple it is...frgivness is just seeing that many dont
understand and so they hate....Jesus said forgivethem for they know
notwhat they do///

so...i think he hopes we all wake up before its too late andfix
ourselves..not be forced to do it...thats why the plan s awesome..he
belie in Us evenwhenwe didnt believeinHim.....thats a friend.thats
dedication..and why i will try my best to betruthfuk with
him..eventhoughtI would never accept me based on my past..as i am
notworthy...but I like the concept...so he said ifyou ask thats all we
needed to do..as i am far fromperfect..i jst level with him..andsmetimes
i evensay what were you thinking..like someofthe animals shapes .colors
and whats they do jusy amaze me as God is mre abstract thenanysureel
artists ever..imho....but hes creayive beyond anyman ever thats whyi am
inawe...we marvel at gumn...I thinkJobs saw the next place...his last
words were wow!!!as i think it blows away anything we wever haveseen
here..and we allcatch up..so imagine haing eternity totalk to
everoneinhistory again..i think we do....so,,,if im nuts and gods nuts
its kinda a cool thought ifyouask me...as whatever has beengoingon seems
out of balance more thenanything inmylife..



On 2018-07-07 05:22, filip de volder wrote:
> but why are you worried what god thinks ?
>
> you don't trust him ? you think he may be a total nut ?
>
> -------------------------
>
> FROM: 
> dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com<mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>
> <dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com<mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>>
>  SENT: Friday, July 6, 2018 4:44 PM
>  TO: filip de volder
>  CC: MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu<mailto:MoPo-L@listserv.american.edu>
>  SUBJECT: Re: [MOPO] mope/ot-the movie industry state of affairs
>
> actually I asked God that question myselfone day///
>  I was takingout thetrash andsaid why are the autistic children and
>  Add//ocd so likethey are????
>
>  the answer i was told was..Tom...lookaroundyou..do you se a order to
>  nature..??i am veryunpredictible and yet there is a order to
>  it..thetrees are very add,fish, flowers,mountians...
>  he said there is nothing wrong with thekids they are just
>  supersenitiveto thiersurroundings..actually people are taught to be
>  blinded to whats happeningaroundthem////they get blinders on
> life...so
>  the add /ocd. autistic ,Dyslexic are actually aware//
>
>  so it calmed me with that answer...the eleite orproud dont get it..
>  however ifyou experiencechildren ..they calm them svants..and act
> like
>  they are unusual...to me they are in Touch with life...
>  we are taoghthate, anger, pride, andall other things..yet whenwe are
>  taught love...it opens the heart and mid mostofus,,are ina sstae of
>  lessons and learning...i get new ones each day..
>  I think after we learn enough we graduate..or die fromthis life..into
>
>  the enext everlasting life at least it sound good to me....
>  Moses by the way was nota good speaker..however he led the jews...he
>  had a lisp..so whenive considered i am not read. or literate like
>  many...I think its funny God would even consider me in his plan.
>  If i am crazy andjust imagine there is a loving God..that forgives
> and
>  helps all i can say is it feels better then thinking there is no hope
>
>  and all is lost or to think we allwillperish by a nuclear war or
>  worse....so illadmiti liketo think positive,,and hope my lkid
> andyours
>  have a future oflve and peace....
>  .but then being the studentofptBarnum..i think why not..as i have
> been
>  so much a part of show biz and we know its all smike and mirrors...so
> He
>  knows i want to help others...andi trust he will open doos and make
> it
>  happen ifi need to do it...that is his will...
>  it may be just i am a foolish man but I am only worried what God
> thinks
>  not humans..as i know we areallconfused and hurt..thats evident..so i
> am
>  tryingto pay my bills , stayindependent from a instiution or hospital
>
>  andhelpas manyas i can...but yes its very hard when you can see
>  well..and dont follow the typical world protocal..
>
>  On 2018-07-06 09:56, filip de volder wrote:
>  > so god is motivating you to write like this ?
>  >
>  > what's wrong with him ?
>  >
>  > -------------------------
>  >
>  > FROM: MoPo List 
> <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf 
> of Tom
> Martin
>  > 
> <dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com<mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>>
>  > SENT: Friday, July 6, 2018 3:05 PM
>  > TO: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
>  > SUBJECT: Re: [MOPO] mope/ot-the movie industry state of affairs
>  >
>  > yes....its kind like art..if everyone could see it itwould not be
>  > unique..
>  >
>  > So in a way its lke blues. or jazz..you haveto look deep and see
> ifit
>  >
>  > talks to yoursoul...some people consider me a lunatic ..and soem
>  > consider me a idiot..
>  >
>  > and want me to conform''
>  > In 1971 i was expelled fomHigh school art class as i drew Led
> zepplin
>  >
>  > because i loved music over drawing florals...
>  >
>  > a kid bully came up and said Martin why do you be likethe rest ofus
>  > and
>  > draw florals...??
>  >
>  > I said thats the problem , I dontwant to be likethe rest
>  > ofyou...please
>  > leave me alone and let me bein my suspended animation state and
> dream
>  >
>  > about these rockers and marshall amps.as i was inlikea heavy metal
>  > anaimation mindset and quite happy..
>  > but he gotin my face andwas calling me naes because i was not lke
>  > him..
>  > so i picked up the ketchup botle ofpurple yemura paint and squited
>  > himright intheface with it...and threw up my papers and pucshed the
>  > desk over and went weeeeeeeeee andthe art teacher came in and sai i
>  > disrupted his class...next i was intheprinciplas office andhe said
>  > well
>  > martin you win ill let you go.
>  >
>  > as i was just16 and wanted to play music....not draw florals...
>  >
>  > he said well i only expelled one other guy in my life as a
> principal
>  > his
>  > name was mark farner ofa band called grand funk reailrod,.....so
> who
>  > knows...
>  >
>  > i said thank you youwont regret it sir...andi started playing
>  > nightclubs
>  > a week later incountrywestern bands and by 17 i was in Johnnyand
>  > thehurricanes who were famous inthe 1959 period...
>  > theni stumbled onto movie memorabilai by the1976 andwas selling
> this
>  > stuff since 77 I have made over 4-6million dollar ,,losta paid off
>  > homeworked forabout everu movie studio inthe world..and yet cant
> tye
>  > forshit...myex did thetyping...sotehmain reason is i am almosty
>  > blind..i
>  > have 20.7- in one eye amd 20/200 I dontlookat the screen i look at
>  > tehkeyboard wheni type...surei can do the talk inthe mic but it
> takes
>  >
>  > time..andim getingold and cranky..I pay my bills andtry to treat
>  > other s
>  > well andtry to help others wheni can....i havesomegrat prohect
> ideas
>  > i
>  > hope to do so i can be able to fund my non profit ventures...i want
>  > to
>  > doa book so i can tell kids how a 15 yearold expelled kid could
> build
>  > a
>  > company as itwas really froma myriad ofppeple who mentored me inthe
>  > entertainment busines..many were
>  > illeiterete,dylexic..auticstic,OCD.add...
>  >
>  > as i seem to havea bit ofit all.... but God uses some ofthecraziest
>  > people todo his work andi just hopethat i am one...because
> manypeple
>  > insult condemn and bbully others and make funofpeple
>  > withdisabilities..i
>  > want to champion thepoor,the disabled..those with mentalillness..as
> i
>  > se
>  > most ofus haveissues fromchildhood..you may know a few...they dont
>  > mean
>  > bad they havbe anziety disorders somethey calptsd..i dig it..as i
> was
>  >
>  > justa fatherless kid that had no role modele but movie stars
> androck
>  > stars weher my role models....yet i saw kids who though they had
> role
>  >
>  > models inthierdadas also get duped.by dads who beat thier moms,
> were
>  > addicts ordrunks..were thieves, etc...so i was luckyas theones that
>  > mentored me said donthate.dont hurt others.help everyone..protect
> the
>  >
>  > weak...help animals...the earth...soyes my emails may be cryptic
> but
>  > if
>  > you look careful...they are motivated by love and God not meant
>  > toharm a
>  > soul...wheni lookat many emaisl i see people hate and spread lies
> and
>  >
>  > miststuthe to confuse everyone..as thats how business has been done
>  > forages..instead of being hones..i dontwant to be likethe
>  > rest...andther
>  > are many who likethat as they also dontwant to be likethat..theyare
>  > my
>  > friends..so hope you will see between the lines..all my best to
>  > you..andhavea greatweekend
>  >
>  > On 2018-07-06 08:24, Richard Auras wrote:
>  > > Yeah Tom. You know I love you but sometimes reading the posts I
>  > feel
>  > > like the guy in King Tuts tomb looking at the writing on the wall
>  > with
>  > > pad in hand trying to figure out what it being said.
>  > >
>  > > Rick
>  > >
>  > > -------------------------
>  > > FROM: Tom Martin 
> <dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com<mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>>
>  > > TO: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
>  > > SENT: Friday, July 6, 2018 7:15 AM
>  > > SUBJECT: Re: [MOPO] mope/ot-the movie industry state of affairs
>  > >
>  > > Free eyeball exercise from he dream Factory® no charge public
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>  > >
>  > > now your eyes are stronger..
>  > >
>  > > On 2018-07-06 03:09, filip de volder wrote:
>  > >> i read it all and now my eyeballs hurt
>  > >>
>  > >> -------------------------
>  > >>
>  > >> FROM: MoPo List 
> <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>> on behalf 
> of Tom
>  > > Martin
>  > >> 
> <dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com<mailto:dreamfact...@hollywooddreamfactory.com>>
>  > >> SENT: Thursday, July 5, 2018 4:16 PM
>  > >> TO: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU<mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU>
>  > >> SUBJECT: [MOPO] mope/ot-the movie industry state of affairs
>  > >>
>  > >> wiw...it dawned on me over the weekend..how so much has changed
>  > > inthe
>  > >> 41
>  > >> years ive been doing this..how movies are distributed,,theway we
>  > >> watch
>  > >> them.the waywe access them.
>  > >> wheni started in77 star wars was just pening..anmdold films you
>  > had
>  > >> to
>  > >> watch onTV..the lateshow or at film fests intheaters..midnight
>  > >> mvies..withstogges retors....forign art house films..and
>  > colleges..
>  > >> they were on 16mm mostlyas the interets was soslow...
>  > >> I used to get films for free fromthepublic libraray and watch
> them
>  > > in
>  > >>
>  > >> my office as a booking agent indown town Toledo..thats how i
>  > >> discovered
>  > >> a 1972 film called Hollywood The dream factory..Dick Cafett did
>  > the
>  > >> narraaton anditwas about the1970 MGM auction of movie
>  > memorabilia..
>  > >> I was hooked...i still havea 16mmprintofthat film....itwas
>  > siomberas
>  > >> so
>  > >> much history was disposed of ina few days..
>  > >> I had tehacutioncatalogs at one timealongwith the 20th century
>  > >> foxcatalogs,andotherstudios...O had a complete sui of AMor from
>  > >> Benhur
>  > >> thatwas screen worn witha helment,sword,breatplate..theywere
> made
>  > in
>  > >> Italy...anditwas sold back to Hollywood....so its ina big
>  > > collectioon
>  > >> ..
>  > >>
>  > >> consider thew was no internet...wheni started..we
>  > >> sentpaperlists...andthe technology to even do typeseting was a
>  > lineo
>  > >> type andthen waxed...orhand written..vcrs didntcomeout till 1984
> m
>  > >> 1st
>  > >> was abut500.00 and then beta came...then teh videodisc
>  > >> liekcriterions...then dvd..and tehn blue ray..and now its
>  > >> almostallstreamingand no dvds no videostres..no rental or
>  > hardware..
>  > >> myson says they donteven sellVHS anymore...the TVs are all led
>  > >> ,OrHD...4
>  > >> k...andeven3 d...
>  > >>
>  > >> the audio has become onpat witha a digital theater...
>  > >> I still likeanalog howeverdigital ispractical...
>  > >>
>  > >> still..I sell old technology...i haveold projectors andtheyare
> fun
>  > > to
>  > >>
>  > >> watch d news reels or shortsas theyare mechanical......some old
>  > > movie
>  > >>
>  > >> guys lketarentino andPaul allen agree and havesave70 mm film
> with
>  > >> filmslikehateful 8...andcinerama..ther was a guy name John
> Harvey
>  > >> fromDayton the new neon theater who saved the 70 mm..and Boston
>  > >> lightand
>  > >> sound revameped theold projectors..it even got Kodak to redo
> super
>  > >> 8mm
>  > >> film for artists wgo love film....
>  > >> so its been a great journey...i staill havea tascam midi studio
>  > with
>  > >> 8trackanalog..i plan o pull outand record musicc...Jack white
>  > >> ofthewhite
>  > >> stripes builta vibylpressing plant in detroit..so guys are into
>  > > Vivyl
>  > >>
>  > >> records again...andpeople evenlikeold polaroid cameras...I
>  > > haveem..if
>  > >>
>  > >> you need emmm..so ina way the fact the world has gone
>  > > backwatds...has
>  > >>
>  > >> beenok for meas i haveabout the same stuffi had in 77 lol...I
>  > still
>  > >> usea
>  > >> floppy disc camera mavica,,i haveike 8 ofthem still havesomeofmy
>  > > 35mm
>  > >>
>  > >> cameras likea Pentax superme.and olympus om1 and a few canons
>  > >> andnikon..theywere all good camers...we juswent digital...andim
>  > ona
>  > >> Imac
>  > >> from 2006
>  > >>
>  > >> I still.have stuff as far bak as 1699s...and books ..that are
>  > notas
>  > >> popular as theywere but I still buy them as i remberhow fun it
> is
>  > to
>  > >> lookat a book and learn...so much has been lost in just the
> last18
>  > >> years
>  > >> ive been flounderingaround tryingto healandget back ntrack,,
>  > >>
>  > >> Its funny...as in a waythepopculture that by theway was coined
>  > inBG
>  > >> ohio
>  > >> as they wee the 1st to start saving it as a seriousstudy...along
>  > >> withpulps and detective books,comics, Movie posters andall the
>  > stuff
>  > >> we
>  > >> saveinthe genres..
>  > >> consider wheni stared i could buy actuall magazine coverart by
>  > >> themasters likeJCleyandecker fora few hundred bucks..did i
>  > ??nope..i
>  > >> did
>  > >> savea few sat eveningposts as i like him...but back inthe80s the
>  > >> stuffwas cheap and therwas warehouse fold stuffall over
>  > >> theplace,,,toys..andyouname it as i foundmany many
>  > >> finds..beforetheinternet...
>  > >>
>  > >> we used to just trade with each otheras one dealer would find
>  > sayold
>  > >> tintoys..and anotherold billgram concert postersand so we
>  > wouldtrade
>  > >> amounst each other toexpand the inventory..there is still fins
> as
>  > >> manypeple boughtand horderd thestuff..then they
> getold..die..andit
>  > >> gets
>  > >> recycled..so much pepel dontcare anymore as yong people dont
> like
>  > >> thesame stuffas babby boomers..yet...there are always
>  > exceptiona...
>  > >>
>  > >> so I thought ia way its comefullcircle..as thepeople that like
> it
>  > >> stilllke it justmany aredown sizingtomake life more
>  > managable..andas
>  > >> far
>  > >> as new stuff i think peple are more selective...
>  > >>
>  > >> I havea few left ofa great boo from 1986 by dave bowerscalled
>  > >> nickelodeons andthier music..ifyouwant to start at thebegging
>  > >> ofmovies
>  > >> before movie posters where evenused..this is
> it..itsfromtheperiod
>  > >> ofaround 1913.loaded withpic..i have new unopend 1st editions
> ive
>  > >> seen
>  > >> offerd for over100..00 ill sell you for 40.00postpaid...and
>  > giveyou
>  > >> soem
>  > >> extras lije movie tickets and promice if you donthave i.itwill
> be
>  > > one
>  > >>
>  > >> of the most treasured books ever in your collection asits one
>  > >> ofmine..i
>  > >> liked itso much back inthe90s i bought his remainder 400
> copies..i
>  > >> have
>  > >> softboaud andill do the hadboound 1st with a DJ for 55.00 so act
>  > >> sooon
>  > >> they arealmostall gone..then you will have to buy on amazonand
> pay
>  > >> 100s
>  > >> david reprinted the book in 9-s as demand was so high..but these
>  > are
>  > >> the original...we even supllied movie mags fromthe teens as
>  > >> reference..andi bought thse nack too...so i have them ifyou like
>  > old
>  > >> movie magazines loaded with info..
>  > >>
>  > >> yes itwill be funny to see whats ahead..as this world is
>  > funny..but
>  > >> eentertainment has really morphed..andthekids have become
>  > >> sofastatprocessing data...yet they long forsimple storys and
> want
>  > to
>  > >> be
>  > >> treated withlove and kindness..andhave peaceand simple living..i
>  > can
>  > >> dig
>  > >> it and soI think they want friends and family and conversation
> and
>  > > to
>  > >> be
>  > >> treated honestly///so i hpe i can help hem do that..as
>  > theartificial
>  > >> stuff has lost itsappeal andthere is nothing that beats
> friendship
>  > >> ofall
>  > >> things..kind was a longlesson for me..but its beautiful when
>  > people
>  > >> shaeand help each other...it feels better then
> theopposite...haea
>  > >> great
>  > >> week folks..I have needed sometimeto reset my thoughts...but its
>  > > been
>  > >>
>  > >> all good..and i thank you all..Gd bless.
>  > >>
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