* I agree with that, Tommy. I think I've owned just two one-sheets signed by a star.
* The one that stands out that I used to own - was a "Psycho" on linen signed by Janet Leigh many years ago - at an anniversary screening of "Psycho." She ooohed and ahhed when my wife brought it - and was thrilled to sign it. Granted, Janet Leigh wasn't a big star, but it's always good when an actor - at the end of his or her career - can be linked to classic. (She passed in 2004.) * (BTW, some have written me privately since last night - that some of my web hosted images aren't showing up in my MoPo posts - but I've embedded what I'm talking about anyway below. If you can't see it, she signed it, "To David, Psycho-tically yours, Janet Leigh." Someone please let me know if this problem persists - as my images are web-hosted and are NOT attachments.) * I know many collectors dislike signatures with inscriptions - but I prefer it, because the more words added before or after a signature, the easier it is to spot a fake - and the less likely you'll be stuck with an auto-pen or a secretarial. * Fortunately, for whoever owns this poster now, he or she has the benefit of knowing the provenance is iron-clad - (it was mine) - as well as photo proof of Janet signing the poster here in San Diego. In hindsight, I now wish I hadn't sold it for $1250 when I was downsizing my collection. If by some chance you're out there and you want to sell it back, let me know. :-) (Read more below...) http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/9606/bh8kZ1.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg923%2F9606%2Fbh8kZ1.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959577187&sdata=tC1izXN%2F2OfzXCncOgEusryjscDP%2FbVkCZk0rfPPjCU%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/9606/bh8kZ1.jpg] http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img921/5685/24OFL5.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg921%2F5685%2F24OFL5.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959577187&sdata=Tyn%2BLmZl8%2B36VnaJgKHwV7i5pZFXNSZngUpBdSTJvBM%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img921/5685/24OFL5.jpg] * Meanwhile, I used to own signed letters and signed photos by Audrey Hepburn, James Stewart, Bette Davis and even Bogart, the latter a tough one to find that's legit. But as an ex-news scribe, I still thoroughly vet everything before every purchase - because indeed there are so many fakes out there. * (Anyone remember Hollywood Dreams - their tables in front of theaters selling autographed items? Did you ever get taken by them? My wife did. I told her to toss what she bought in the trash, as there's no way the irascible Harrison Ford would sign a cast photo from Star Wars, not back then. Hollywood Dreams was later shut down by law enforcement.) * Then there was a time when a seller tried to get me to buy a photo from Gilda that was "signed" by Rita Hayworth. It was handsomely framed and looked legit to the untrained eye. But the signature looked "off" and the seller was vague about provenance. But the killer was it was signed with a bold Sharpie, which was NOT the signing pen of choice until the 1980s. By the late 70s, I told the seller, Rita wasn't signing much of anything, as she was riddled with Alzheimer's, which took her life in 1987. I feel sorry for the person who eventually bought it. * Admittedly, we're not talking forgeries of the magnitude of the horror poster fakes by Haggard - but I have lots of other stories about being scammed or almost scammed. I once bought a repro Beatles quad from Sotheby's that caused a ruckus - and during my investigative writing and collecting years here at MoPo and at MCW - I wrote a lot of stuff about the so-called "destroyed" (ha-ha) six-sheets from "The Outlaw" that kept turning up in subsequent auctions, as well as writing about the Mannheim vs. Schacter fight that led to Ralph D.'s winning bid for his "Metropolis" 3-sheet, etc. * Many years have passed, but memories linger. I'd love to hear stories others might have of a similar bent, even if they're old and/or have been told before or are from the "mistakes made/lessons learned" category. Hey, is that guy from Rochester still selling minty whites? Where's "rodxmorgan, ambulance chaser?" What about that linen-backing guy who wouldn't return posters to clients? I once errantly sold a repro of the Lucky Strikes "Pulp Fiction" to Freeman Fisher. I was stubborn and had to be convinced - but I refunded him. Man oh man, those were crazy years. -d. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MoPo List <mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU> on behalf of Tommy Barr <tommymb...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 8:18 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Beatles and Marilyn for sale - and a question (scroll down) about signed items. I can see that an autograph on a poster could be regarded by purists as a fault, but I imagine most people who are not avid collectors but only buying one or two items might be very well impressed by authentic signatures. I suppose also the size and position of the signature would be important. Tommy --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Kusumoto <davidmkusum...@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2018 10:46 PM To: MoPo List Subject: OT: Beatles and Marilyn for sale - and a question (scroll down) about signed items. Not sure how popular the Beatles remain among MoPoers - (beyond the posters some of us in this group own) - but there are items from 1956 to 1964 - that intriguingly - have been bundled into a single lot (#2068) - and buried in the back pages of Profiles in History's massive movie auction catalog (Tues-Fri, December 11-14). The marquee piece in the Beatles lot is a picture card signed by the group at the Plaza Hotel presser held the day after the Ed Sullivan show, with a document from Frank Caiazzo, who most believe (including myself) - is the leading authenticator of signed Beatle items in the world. There's also a notarized provenance statement from the owner of the signatures - who was twelve-years-old when she won them in a WMCA radio contest in NYC, as well as a congratulatory letter to her signed by WMCA’s program director. There's also a 1964 Plaza Hotel postcard, some Plaza Hotel matchbooks, photos and related ephemera. Other Beatle gems in this same lot - that are unrelated to Feb 1964 but are still seldom seen - include a 1961 Cavern Club membership booklet referencing the group before their stardom - (the year they were "discovered" by Brian Epstein) - and a 1956 Liverpool high school roll booklet that lists Paul McCartney when he was 14, George Harrison when he was 13, McCartney's brother Michael when he was 12, and Neil Aspinall when he was 15 (who would become a roadie and later the CEO of Apple Records) - all pupils at the same school at the same time. A bit wild the low estimate for this cache is $25K, esp. since items from the group's first U.S. visit have fetched up to $50K - (and even more when a signed album is included). Only the signed Beatles' card is printed in the paper catalog. I could only find mages of the other items mentioned in this lot - at the following Profiles link - (other web-hosted images are in this email below): https://bit.ly/2AA0pSd<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2AA0pSd&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=fiudpOyCr5XiY2O0sHu2w8B8cv6KV3OmVvtbRkzU7c0%3D&reserved=0> or http://www.icollector.com/The-Beatles-extremely-rare-First-Visit-Set-of-signatures-on-a-fan-club-card_i31872336<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icollector.com%2FThe-Beatles-extremely-rare-First-Visit-Set-of-signatures-on-a-fan-club-card_i31872336&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=UASxcWdOWyo3R%2F8xWCJ5eSmCeSjaXHlv%2FdHFZPpJv1s%3D&reserved=0> [http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/37021/31872336_1m.jpg?v=8D653C75D4F9DC0]<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icollector.com%2FThe-Beatles-extremely-rare-First-Visit-Set-of-signatures-on-a-fan-club-card_i31872336&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=UASxcWdOWyo3R%2F8xWCJ5eSmCeSjaXHlv%2FdHFZPpJv1s%3D&reserved=0> “The Beatles” extremely rare “First Visit Set” of signatures on a fan club card. <https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icollector.com%2FThe-Beatles-extremely-rare-First-Visit-Set-of-signatures-on-a-fan-club-card_i31872336&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=UASxcWdOWyo3R%2F8xWCJ5eSmCeSjaXHlv%2FdHFZPpJv1s%3D&reserved=0> “The Beatles” extremely rare “First Visit Set” of signatures on a fan club card. - Profiles in History www.icollector.com Beatles: https://imageshack.com/a/img921/7369/czDZOh.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg921%2F7369%2FczDZOh.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=GOLHgTjgGES2Zforg%2B9BIINRvCWeQZEQCG63lp2ZZxo%3D&reserved=0> [https://imageshack.com/a/img921/7369/czDZOh.jpg] https://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/4640/pOOUgb.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg923%2F4640%2FpOOUgb.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=D2M%2F%2BOyuqbT7%2FqDbzsoh7CrSCLDiCR1Y0Jh79xaptPc%3D&reserved=0> [https://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/4640/pOOUgb.jpg] https://imageshack.com/a/img924/4180/CdHFrf.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg924%2F4180%2FCdHFrf.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=%2BZb8OfYEsMwdG%2FjLdwW4wTMBHXeCiCR96satVd5vPoA%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/4180/CdHFrf.jpg] https://imageshack.com/a/img923/9933/JhinwP.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg923%2F9933%2FJhinwP.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=Smtyj%2BrtddnIGdQxGZSO3BBvWV3hrEoV7RAUGnbOoKA%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img923/9933/JhinwP.jpg] https://imageshack.com/a/img921/4004/QtJkX6.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg921%2F4004%2FQtJkX6.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=DeFkdceFzuypqMEdsUgDjvsmGt3wSIuPtdSi9WWk2Cw%3D&reserved=0> [https://imageshack.com/a/img921/4004/QtJkX6.jpg] https://imageshack.com/a/img924/6177/QyGkz2.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg924%2F6177%2FQyGkz2.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=9DFYrBxkWy2B1mGtgjvg%2F01qyEyr8%2BNWYes9JM8WiYE%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/6177/QyGkz2.jpg] https://imageshack.com/a/img921/1733/LklgWv.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg921%2F1733%2FLklgWv.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959733440&sdata=9bQuHDgwfcVuh81Z9WAZmLYEQ%2FIhOXe%2BJlYTTVHXIRw%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img921/1733/LklgWv.jpg] https://imageshack.com/a/img924/4359/Pa0Ins.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg924%2F4359%2FPa0Ins.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959889728&sdata=B0IlFaC%2FFKVLyCfyWF3GDgsZWRVJQ05L3d8ncK0m7QA%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img924/4359/Pa0Ins.jpg] In the same sale, there is a 1947 document (Lot #27) - signed twice by Marilyn Monroe as "Norma Jean Dougherty" AND "Marilyn Monroe." It "starts" at $6K, something I'd love to own if this price was final. I think it will sell for more: https://bit.ly/2DVoupA<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F2DVoupA&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959889728&sdata=5ErFXiPfPEZtT1BPe%2Bqj2u1YMrQ1h0Y408AK6nQsmgg%3D&reserved=0> Marilyn Monroe power of attorney document twice-signed as Marilyn Monroe and Norma Jeane Dougherty. - Profiles in History http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/508/B89IKV.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg922%2F508%2FB89IKV.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959889728&sdata=g0CVzgYAw3me37mlwaZrPhxrT0cDBAGNOb3RTH06CP8%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/508/B89IKV.jpg] If you scrolled down this far (most won't) - here's my ponderable. Years ago a question came up on MoPo about whether signatures on posters or on similar items enhance or detract value. The consensus (at the time) - was autographs were undesirable on posters and the like. Has this opinion changed for collectors and dealers? What are your impressions about the autographed items market today? eMoviePoster for example, has since demonstrated that there is indeed a robust market for signed items on posters and related memorabilia - so long as authenticity is unquestioned and/or guarantees are in place, e.g., recent standouts include posters signed by Spielberg, John Williams, etc. - and pictures or cards signed by Marilyn or Bogart. However, a top person in the field recently told me that while the autograph market remains strong - it is still replete with the "slimiest" people in the business - and a check at eBay and at other auction sites confirm this. Blatant fakes designed to defraud the unsuspecting consumer are out there. Look at the one below that closed THIS WEEK - a signed Beatles album which is an obvious counterfeit - yet represented as genuine. It didn't meet reserve - but even with a "high bid" of $450, this is pathetic. - d. http://www.icollector.com/The-Beatles-Signed-Butcherblock-Album_i31969663<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.icollector.com%2FThe-Beatles-Signed-Butcherblock-Album_i31969663&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959889728&sdata=3gPxR%2B%2FaRF4za6hKhGPqH7SIS%2B9lxmfRlpsa%2FuQzzeE%3D&reserved=0> http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/6302/bCc57b.jpg<https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg922%2F6302%2FbCc57b.jpg&data=02%7C01%7C%7Cab969cb5ac394f3dd6c308d657637248%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636792481959889728&sdata=u%2Bv64I6F3OeSts7Pz7hPiMPuJMkxp4MBVgZNbI1c8R8%3D&reserved=0> [http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/6302/bCc57b.jpg] Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
