You rock! This is exactly the information I was looking for. Should get it next week so I guess the measurements will be the tell-tale sign.
All the best. Sincerely, Paul W. Hazen Handshake Partners Email: [email protected] Phone: 818.970.6602 > On Jun 27, 2019, at 10:21 PM, David Kusumoto <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I researched this issue almost two years ago and here's what I turned up. If > you don't want to read the long-form info I wrote to another colleague - the > short version is "Help!" quads with the "U" rating are first release 1965 - > but oddly - they are second printings to correct an error in the first run by > Stafford and Company Ltd. - which had errantly left off the "U" in its rush > to ship posters of this guaranteed hit to UA / UK / exhibitors. > > To me personally, these second printing quads with the "U" - are more desired > and command more $$$ - because they're harder to find. Parenthetically - > commercial reprints DO NOT HAVE THE "U" - and most are smaller than 30x40. I > know that sounds counter-intuitive - but it's because the reprints were based > on the more prevalent first printing theatrical quads without the "U." I've > never seen the third version mentioned, i.e., "a U enclosed in a circle" with > "minor cast names" replaced with a “Seven New Songs” Label and a “Printed by > Leonard Ripley & Co, LTD, London” stamp "on the lower right." I believe this > is a third printing given the marketing changes that befell "Help!" - akin to > the different poster versions of "Yellow Submarine" in 1968 whereby listing > the number of songs felt crucial to draw in fans. > > In sum, the two most important markers to determine the authenticity of > "Help!" quads - have nothing to do with the "U" rating. > 1) dimensions must be 30 x 40 or GREATER > 2) paper must be folded and not rolled > > Second printing "U" rating "Help!" BQ - (more desired and more $$$). > https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6536/mYs4sx.jpg > > > ---------------------------------------------------September > 2017--------------------------------------------------- > Research about the Help! UK quad rating anomaly (see images below). > > * Last week (9 September 2017) - Tracks Ltd. in the U.K. - authenticated and > posted two vintage Beatle BQs from the SAME consignor for sale (see images > below). > > * I consider Tracks Ltd. - (which like eMoviePoster here in the U.S. - offers > a LIFETIME guarantee) - along with Frank Caiazzo of NJ, Perry Cox of AZ, > Thomas Vanghele of NYC, Mark Lewisohn of the UK and Bruce Spizer of AZ - to > be the best historians and / or authenticators of Beatles' signatures and > memorabilia on earth - as all six (6) have been consulted by corporations, > museums and auction houses worldwide, e.g., London, Tokyo, New York, Paris, > etc. > > * While Tracks Ltd. makes no reference about the absence of ratings letter > "U" for its "Help!" BQ - both "Help!" and "A Hard Day's Night" quads are > genuine and are not reprints. They are both in the same ragged condition - > and - more crucially - their provenance is sourced to the same consignor who > has with familial links to Stafford and Company Limited - the printers of > many BQs in the 1960s. > > * Neither quad offered by Tracks is a repro and this supports my long-held > belief that "Help!" BQs without the "U" - represent a first printing anomaly > from the first release in 1965. Their greater prevalence reflects "Help!'s" > status as an slam-dunk blockbuster - and these first printings without the > "U" - went out quickly in great numbers - before a corrected second printing > commenced with the "U" rating added. These second printings with the "U" are > more scarce, yet are ALSO from the first 1965 release. "Help!" was expected > to be a greater hit than "A Hard Day's Night" and their greater availability > as vintage posters are reflected accordingly. > > * I believe a hand examination of paper-stock is still required to > distinguish 30 x 40 originals on vintage paper - from the smaller-sized > commercial reprints on glossy stock which appeared in the 1980s. Poster > dimensions are CRITICAL. Known commercial repros are rolled - and are ALL 27 > x 39 or SMALLER. > > * The provenance of the "Help!" quad I once owned - (since sold long ago) - > was from the Eddy Block collection sold by Christie's South Kensington in > 1997. It too, had NO "U" rating. (The back story about how I acquired it > and why I sold it - is below the next section which specifically addresses > the posting by Tracks Ltd. of "Help!" and "A Hard Day's Night" vintage BQs.) > > * NOTE THAT Tracks Ltd.'s MARKETING LINKS BELOW MIGHT BE DEAD if both posters > have been sold. > > ----------------------- > B25986 – The Beatles HELP! 1965 Cinema Quad Poster (UK) > £650.00 > About this item > > A UK United Artists Quad cinema poster that was used to promote The Beatles > second feature film 'HELP!' in cinemas across Great Britain after the film's > release on 29th July 1965. The poster comes from a relative of a former > employee of Stafford & Co Limited, Nottingham and London the company that > printed the posters. It measures 76cm x 101.5cm (30 inches x 40 inches). The > left edge of the poster is damaged. The condition is good. > https://www.tracks.co.uk/product/b25986-beatles-help-1965-cinema-quad-poster-uk/ > > > B25985 – The Beatles A Hard Day's Night 1964 Cinema Quad Poster (UK) > £1,250.00 > About this item > > A UK United Artists Quad cinema poster that was used to promote The Beatles > first feature film 'A Hard Day's Night' in cinemas across Great Britain after > the film's release on 6th July 1964. The poster comes from a relative of a > former employee of Stafford & Co Limited, Nottingham and London the company > that printed the posters. It measures 76cm x 101.5cm (30 inches x 40 inches. > A small piece of the top right hand corner of the poster is missing, there is > some very slight were on the bottom right hand side edge, there are a few > tears on the right edge the largest of which measures 11cm (4.25 inches) and > there some slight discolouration on the right side . The condition is very > good. > https://www.tracks.co.uk/product/b25985-beatles-hard-days-night-1964-cinema-quad-poster-uk/ > > Lifetime guarantee > All our items come with a lifetime guarantee of authenticity. > 100% authentic > > All our items are guaranteed authentic at Tracks.co.uk > Tracks Ltd, PO Box 117, Chorley, Lancashire, PR6 0QR, United Kingdom > +44 (0)1257 269726 > [email protected] > > ==================================================================================== > > Meanwhile, here's my personal backstory about Beatle quads: > > https://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/3446/0Q8FXd.jpg > > > * I got into a huge fight with Sotheby's in December 1996 over a "A Hard > Day's Night" British quad "issued in 1964." I was not able to measure its > poster before bidding on it IN PERSON - during one of its rare showroom sales > in L.A. This quad HAD a "U" rating - BUT LATER - I discovered it was 27 x > 39. Tony Nourmand, who was then a rival consultant for Christie's in London > - told me he knew the quad I had bought from Sotheby's was a repro from the > 80s. So - armed with Tony's knowledge, I went to Sotheby's to complain, who > in turn, wanted to cancel the sale and refund my money. > > * Noting major travel and related expenses I incurred to attend this auction > and to purchase and pick-up this poster in person - I rejected Sotheby's > offer. I wanted the poster REPLACED. Sotheby's refused. At the time - the > big auction houses were under investigation for many underhanded dealings - > over which - as a young militant consumer activist - I concede I took full > advantage. > > * I threatened Sotheby's executives on York Ave. that I would unleash global > media coverage - (as I have done with other corporations in the past) - about > general auction practices in New York, L.A. and London - which I was well > aware of through informers. The bosses in NYC relented in mid-March 1997 - > and replaced the repro Hard Day's Night BQ with an original, e.g., a > "straight exchange" from one of Sotheby's "trusted" consignors. (After I > received it - I turned around and consigned it to The Beatles Shop on Mathew > St. in Liverpool in late 1997. Why? Well, continue reading below.) > > * During my fight with Sotheby's - Tony Nourmand reassured me that his > upcoming May 1997 sale of quads through Christie's in London - were not only > "absolutely 100% genuine" - but also they were, he said in superior condition > - with provenance sourced to the Eddy Block Collection. Thus - it was > through Tony Nourmand - and his relationship with Christie's - that on May > 19, 1997 - that I bid and won the quads from "Help!" and "A Hard Day's Night" > offered in his sale. The "Help!" quad I won - had NO "U" rating - and the "A > Hard Day's Night" quad - did. > > * To be fair, as a strictly "personal preference" - if I, David Kusumoto, was > avidly collecting again - I'd prefer chasing quads of "Help!" WITH the "U" > rating - because they're harder to find. Until I was able to figure it out - > I had it errantly in my head that the "ratings marker" was critically > important as a first printing flag for vintage posters - in relation to > commercial reprints available in the U.S. which appear without them. But > with UK commercial reprints - I saw many with the "U" (or with stricter > ratings) printed on - albeit available in smaller sizes, which to me meant > different rules had to be applied. > > Best, David. > > From: Tracks Limited. > Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 3:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Tracks Ltd -Beatles Movie Posters! > > > > > > > Dear Customer, > > We've been adding more items onto our website including a nice couple of > Beatles movie posters for you to enjoy. You can view the latest Beatles items > by clicking here. You can view the latest various artists items by clicking > here. > > Don't forgot we are also regularly listing items on eBay. > > Click here to view our eBay auctions > > Best regards > Tracks Ltd. > > > > > Click here to visit our website > > > B25985 - The Beatles A Hard Day's Night 1964 Cinema Quad Poster (UK). > A UK United Artists Quad cinema poster that was used to promote The Beatles > first feature film 'A Hard Day's Night' in cinemas across Great Britain after > the film's release on 6th July 1964. The poster comes from a relative of a > former employee of Stafford & Co Limited, Nottingham and London the company > that printed the posters. It measures 76cm x 101.5cm (30 inches x 40 inches. > A small piece of the top right hand corner of the poster is missing, there is > some very slight were on the bottom right hand side edge, there are a few > tears on the right edge the largest of which measures 11cm (4.25 inches) and > there some slight discolouration on the right side . The condition is very > good. > £1250.00 > Click Here To Order > > > > B25986 - The Beatles HELP! 1965 Cinema Quad Poster (UK). > A UK United Artists Quad cinema poster that was used to promote The Beatles > second feature film 'HELP!' in cinemas across Great Britain after the film's > release on 29th July 1965. The poster comes from a relative of a former > employee of Stafford & Co Limited, Nottingham and London the company that > printed the posters. It measures 76cm x 101.5cm (30 inches x 40 inches). The > left edge of the poster is damaged. The condition is good. > £650.00 > > Click Here To Order > > > > > > B25964 - The Beatles 1960s Official NEMS Jigsaw (UK). > An original 340 piece 1960s Beatles NEMS jigsaw. It features an image of The > Beatles posing on different chairs. When complete the jigsaw measures 43.5cm > x 28cm (17 inches x 11 inches). It has been presented in a glass-fronted > frame measuring 51cm x 41cm (20 inches x 16.25 inches). The jigsaw comes with > the original cardboard box which measures 28cm x 21cm (11 inches x 8.5 > inches). There are no missing pieces. The condition of the jigsaw is mint. > The colour on the box is bright and it has retained its shape. The condition > of the box is very good. > £200.00 > > Click Here To Order > > > > > B25973 - Beach Boys 1968 Birmingham Odeon Concert Handbill (UK). > An original 1968 concert handbill for the Beach Boys performance at > Birmingham Odeon on December 6. It features black and white images of the > band with the band name in white on a red and blue background with details of > supporting artists; Vanity Far, Eclection and Roger 'Twiggy' Day amongst > others. There is a crease line to the centre of the handbill. The ticket > order form is still attached to the bottom. It measures 13cm by 28cm (5.25 > inches by 11 inches). The condition is very good. > £100.00 > > Click Here To Order > > Please remember we are constantly updating our website. If you have any > 'wants' please contact us as not all our stock is online. > Sincerely, > Tracks Ltd. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From: MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of Paul W. Hazen > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2019 10:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: The Beatles - British Quad HELP! question > > Ok, who is the resident Beatles expert here? I came across a British Quad for > The Beatles HELP! that I picked it up at (what I hope was) a good price. As > this is out of my Stanley Kubrick wheelhouse I’ve looked for prices using the > usual suspects but they are all over the place based on the different > versions. It appears there are 3 different versions sold in the past by both > Heritage and emovieposter as well as a few other reputable websites selling > it currently at retail. > > One version has a “U” next to the dot in the exclamation point. Another > version does not have the U at all. And another version has a U enclosed in a > circle and has the minor cast names replaced with a “Seven New Songs” Label > and a “Printed by Leonard Ripley & Co, LTD, London” Stamp on the lower right. > > Can someone shed some light on if all of these are true versions and the > order these were released and the value ranking of each? > > All the best. > > Sincerely, > > Paul W. Hazen Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___________________________________________________________________ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: [email protected] In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
