VHS was developed by the Victor Company of Japan (aka JVC, a subsidiary of 
Matsushita), while Betamax was developed by Sony, also of Japan. The earlier 
VCR-LP and VCR video recorders (yes, “VCR” was the name of the format) were 
products of Philips NV of the Netherlands, leaving Cartrivsion as the only 
US-developed home videorecorder format.

Magnavox was the North American arm of Philips NV. It was a Dutch invention, 
although Pioneer was the main manufacturer of LaserDisc players after the 
earliest years of the format, at least in NTSC countries.

Colin Hunter
White Hall, MD

> On Jul 2, 2022, at 7:26 AM, Alan Heimann <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> talk about coincidences..if i remember correctly and am happy to be 
> corrected..VHS players were developed in the US but rapidly gave way to 
> production by asian companies
> similar story for laser disc players..i do remember the magnovox players as 
> being the earliest out there and i'm not sure but i think the next iteration 
> for discs after discovision was RCA videodiscs
> so coincidentally i visited my favorite vintage store in Greenport long 
> island yesterday and came across a bin having  guess what..7 videodiscs i 
> photo'd the cover for East of Eden
> 
> 
> https://d2j6dbq0eux0bg.cloudfront.net/images/1377056/3133618543.jpg
> 
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 4:13 PM Jay Johannes 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> I bought one of the original Magnavox Discovision players on the first day 
> they were available in the Denver test market in Spring of 1978.  I believe I 
> have purchased 4 or 5 players since.  I had well over 700 discs.  Gave all 
> the discs and 2 players to my son-in-law when we sold the house and moved to 
> a senior apartment in 2019.
> 
>  
> 
> Buying laserdiscs was really an adventure those first couple of years.  They 
> were all under the discovision label with the silver boxes.  I would trek 60 
> miles down to Denver twice a week to each of the 6 stores that sold them and 
> look through the boxes of discs.  The dealers could not order specific 
> titles, just boxes with random discs.  About half of the box would be filled 
> with cheap documentary stuff.  National Gallery of Art, Cooking shows, etc.  
> The dealers were stuck with these, and after a bit you needed to sort through 
> large quantities of junk to find any entertainment title.  I ended up buying 
> movies I had little interest in, just because it was something different.
> 
>  
> 
> The discovision discs were interesting in that they were in a CAV format that 
> only had 30 minutes per side.  They often had an odd number of sides and they 
> would place some random title on the ‘dead’ side and disable it by spraying 
> on a coat of matte lacquer.   We soon realized you could wipe this off with 
> rubbing alchohol and see what was there.  About 2/3 were Ford dealer titles 
> on maintenance or sales techniques, but sometimes you would hit gold.  For 
> example, one disc had an experimental CLV format (1 hour per side) copy of 
> the start of Deliverance, complete with the Dueling Banjos number.
> 
>  
> 
> I wrote to Sears and received a free copy of their laserdisc Summer 1978 
> catalog.
> 
>  
> 
> The format nearly died and titles again became scarce in 1981 when RCA came 
> out with their disc format, but it finally took off full force in 1983 or so, 
> when RCA pulled out.
> 
>  
> 
> Yes, I had that 1776 disc, that I bought when it came out.  Had the original 
> one without the footage as well.  I bought a number of musicals that never 
> seemed to show up on DVD. And 2 or 3 adult titles.  I watched these discs 
> until I sold the house.  I almost never bought a DVD with the same title, but 
> started buying BluRay titles of my favorites.
> 
>  
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jay Johannes
> 
> 2716 S Promenade CIR APT#9
> 
> Sheboygan, WI 53089
> 
> 970-290-9797
> 
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> 
> From: MoPo List <[email protected]> on behalf of Alan Adler 
> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Alan Adler <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, July 1, 2022 at 1:44 PM
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MOPO] Laserdiscs
> 
>  
> 
> Great stories!
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks to everyone for sharing their laserdisc epiphanies!
> 
>  
> 
> Keep’em coming!
> 
>  
> 
> There a funny kind of thing to sniff into after all these years and I’m 
> enjoying the process.
> 
>  
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 1, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Glenn Taranto <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> I remember there was a time when the out-of-print Criterions were quite 
> collectable. Years ago when I was selling off my discs and player one of the 
> sets I sold was the Astaire-Rogers box set. It went to a man in Japan who 
> sent me three crisp one hundred dollar bills wrapped in tissue paper and 
> tinfoil through the mail.
> 
>  
> 
> The one disc I kept was a rare pressing of the musical 1776. I played John 
> Adams in high school during the Bicentennial. Naturally the show had a lot of 
> meaning for me. This particular version was the first time the lost footage 
> had been added. That footage was in black and white before they found the 
> right materials for the dvd.
> 
>  
> 
> I searched everywhere for that laser. On a trip to the very late and still 
> lamented Dave's Video on Ventura near Laurel canyon I found a pristine copy 
> in the used bin. I couldn't believe my eyes. I scooped it up right away and 
> brought it to the front desk to hold for me after I returned from a doctor's 
> appointment. I didn't want this rarity sitting in a hot car in the San 
> Fernando Valley.
> 
>  
> 
> As I walked out the door to Ventura Blvd. to cross the street to my doctor's, 
> who did I see window shopping at Dave's? The one and only John Adams himself, 
> William Daniels!!! What in the world are the chances of that happening? I 
> spoke to him for a few minutes acknowledging my fondness for his work on St 
> Elsewhere and our 1776 connection. Overwhelmed at seeing him I nearly forgot 
> I had just bought the laserdisc. I excitedly told him about my purchase and 
> asked him if he would be kind enough to sign it. He came into the store and 
> did so. I still find it hard to believe anytime I think of that moment. I 
> have saved some very interesting things through the years but that laserdisc 
> is one of my most treasured possessions.
> 
>  
> 
> Glenn
> 
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> On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 11:11 AM Alan Adler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Great info! Thanks! Alan
> 
> > On Jul 1, 2022, at 10:22 AM, Dale Dilts <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > LD have FEW that will bring a $100 or a $50 every now and then but they are 
> > few and far between. Going rate on bulk collection purchases tend to be 
> > well under $2 a movie these days.
> > 
> > 80's obscure titles and horror is where the little money is at. Also DTS 
> > disks bring a premium.  The last few discs released also bring a premium as 
> > there were far fewer pressed. Matrix, Sleepy Hollow, stuff from 1999 time 
> > period.
> > 
> > 
> > Word was all of the authoring machines are no more, so there is zero chance 
> > of laserdisc making any kind of come back like vinyl has.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alan Adler" <[email protected]>
> > To: "MoPo-L" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, July 1, 2022 8:26:22 AM
> > Subject: [MOPO] Laserdiscs
> > 
> > Dear Mopos -
> > 
> > I just came across what appears to be a well-curated collection of laser 
> > discs.
> > Good titles - boxed sets - noticed Japanese discs - some still sealed - 
> > including what I was told by the collector was the best laserdisc machine.
> > 
> > Before I commit to handling the collection, I wondered what the status of 
> > laserdisc collecting was at present.
> > Has the VHS craze seeped into the world of laserdiscs?
> > 
> > Any Mopos out there collect these - or is there some kind of marketplace - 
> > or site with titles and values, etc.?
> > 
> > I always thought laserdiscs were cool but never have found only a few here 
> > and there and no machine to play them.
> > 
> > Any laserdisc specialists in the audience?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Alan Adler
> > Museum of Mom and Pop Culture
> > 
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