Great advice from all. On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 11:09 AM Alan Adler <m...@charter.net> wrote:
> Fellow Mopes - > > In 66 years of collecting, I’ve lived by a few simple rules. > > 1. Don’t buy anything unless you love it and want to keep it forever - or > someone is throwing it away. > 2. When and if (See Dracula) you die, the next kid can enjoy whatever you > collected because you saved it from the trash. > 3. If you sell the item along the way and make a profit, good for you. > Tastes change and you can’t keep it all. > 4. Take the money and pay a bill or buy something else you love and want > to keep forever. > 5. Be thankful for what you have and be kind to people. > 6. Repeat. > > Alan > > On Oct 19, 2023, at 2:15 AM, Helmut Hamm <texasmu...@web.de> wrote: > > Rich and all, > > if you are looking for something you can sit on and wait for it to > increase in value, movie posters are not for you. But can you think of any > other field of investment where this is true? > > If you invested in silver ago comics early enough, you made a fortune. I > remember buying an Amazing Spider-Man #127 (is it, this was a long time > ago?), anyway the first Punisher issue for $10 in the 1980s. Sold it for > $50, which even back then was too cheap. These days, it might be worth a > couple of grand. On the other hand, people were massively let to collecting > brand-new comics back then. They came with the promise of a guaranteed > investment, and for a few years, prices went through the roof. The only > people who ever made money on these were the comic book dealers. > > I sold my 50s scifi and horror movie poster collection about 15 years ago > or so, at a time when prices were at all all-time high. Lucky me. On the > other hand, I bought a KING OF THE ROCKET-MEN onesheet for over $4,300. I > could easily pick up another one for little over $1,000 these days. My copy > is on display, I still love it, and I will most likely never sell it, but > it most be the biggest single loss I have ever taken on a single poster in > the last 30 years. Poor, poor me. > > I get questions about movie posters as an investment as well, and > my bottom line is: It is possible, but you have to know what you're doing, > and you need EXPERTISE. There is no such thing as a 'guaranteed investment' > anywhere in this world, if you want that, put your money in the bank at 2% > interest rate. And hope the bank does not crash. > Like any other dealer, I have found my share of bargains over the years, > more than one poster I found on ebay for $100 and sold s > for $3000 or so the next day. But these were pretty much always very > obscure, very special interest pieces the average buyer or collector would > not even recognize. I have been making my living selling movie posters for > over 25 years, and I do not have a inventory of 300000 posters or > something, so you do not have to be a 'major' dealer to survive in this > hobby. Again, what it takeas is expertise and aquiring that is a long, long > way and a takes a huge amount of legwork. > > As to selling with Heritage vs selling with Bruce: The Heritage results do > seem impressive, but keep in mind that almost half of that money goes to > The Corporation. > > Helmut > > > *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2023 um 06:03 Uhr > *Von:* "Richard Halegua MPB.auction" <rihadmin@MPB.AUCTION> > *An:* MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU > *Betreff:* Re: [MOPO] THIS IS THE MOST RIDICULOUS POST EVER>>>>>Re: > [MOPO] FHA: What can I can invest in that has not gone sky high in recent > years? > > urchases in collectibles that result in investments are serendipitous, and > myself I never collected posters for anything other Ithan spiritual > investment > > I only find it funny when people say something is a good investment and > then pointing out why they've been a terrible investment. It was just > rhetoric of course, but certainly not well thought out message. > > as to Forbidden Planet.. Randy Ringenberg had a very nicely backed one at > the Columbus show for just $6500 and it did not sell. I don't think it will > get down to 1500, but there may still be some savings to come. Maybe by > then you can just use some of your dividends, instead of putting them into > the reinvestment program for a month and not sell any shares ;-) > > On 10/18/2023 8:37 PM, Johnson Tom wrote: > > Well..as a collector, I couldn't be happier that prices have stalled out. > In 50 years I have never bought a poster as an investment, unless I found > an incredible deal that could help me roll it over into something I wanted. > I'd be thrilled if the bottom fell completely out of the market. With my > finances and collecting field I can only afford to buy a couple of posters > a year--if prices dumped further I'd be all over it. I've thoroughly > enjoyed selling off my other collectibles that did jump way up in value and > using that money to buy movie posters. If posters are an investment to > you...guess you shoulda bought Apple at $35 and Amazon at $76 instead of > Maltese Falcon at $67,000. oops. I did both of the former. Can't wait to > sell my shares for for Forbidden Planet at $1500. > > On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 7:42 PM Richard Halegua MPB.auction > <richadmin@mpb.auction> <richadmin@mpb.auction> wrote: > >> your better posters would do much better at Heritage, no question. >> >> On 10/18/2023 7:39 PM, Glenn Taranto wrote: >> >> I've told my Niece and Nephew that when I go to send my posters to Bruce. >> >> Explaining, "You'll likely never get what I paid for them but it'll be >> money in your pocket you wouldn't have had otherwise. Even if it's five >> bucks, get a cup of coffee and think of me!" >> >> Glenn T. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 7:30 PM Richard Halegua MPB.auction >> <richadmin@mpb.auction> <richadmin@mpb.auction> wrote: >> >>> of all the ridiculous posts I see people make about collectibles in >>> general, and movie posters in particular, this one was an absolute laugh. >>> >>> Pay attention folks: as far as 'investments' go, movie posters has, >>> sadly, shown itself to be among the least best candidates for a place to >>> invest money and after the author of this post says >>> "..what is something I can invest in that has not gone sky high in >>> recent years?". Can I self-servingly suggest vintage movie paper?" >>> >>> the author follows it with >>> "..it is 100% true that a LOT of vintage movie posters sell for the >>> same or similar prices that they did 20 or more years ago, including both >>> great ones and lesser ones!" >>> >>> and >>> "..most are at huge discounts to prices of the same or similar items >>> many years ago!" >>> >>> does the author not understand that these statements are the opposite of >>> "posters are a good investment" >>> >>> listen, I'm in this business and have been for a very long time, and I >>> would love for my Raymond Chandler collection, or my German posters for >>> Fritz Lang films or for gosh sakes my many thousands of gambling themed >>> movie posters & lobby cards to be worth an investment, but they aren't. I >>> think I'll be lucky to be able to get anything close to my money back, >>> should I ever be selling these holdings (likely I'll never get there, >>> seeing as I have 300,000 other posters to sell first as well as a couple >>> hundred thousand non poster items from comics to art to any kind of paper >>> you can imagine). >>> (note: 50s horror & sci-fi has topped out, as has, apparently, Universal >>> horror) >>> >>> Sure, if you only have Star Wars posters, or a very narrow title range >>> of 1970s-2000's posters, there is some investment value. But as a general >>> rule, poster values are in the negative, not the positive. >>> >>> Forbidden Planet was a keystone title in posters for decades, but it >>> hasn't really increased in value in any fashion at all, and if the one I >>> sold in 2005 for $8500 is only worth $8500 today, that is not an >>> investment, that is a negative money play, as that $8500, even in just a 2% >>> bank account would be over $13,000 today. Any comic book I could have >>> bought in 2005 for $8500 - and I mean ANY - would be worth at least twice >>> that and more likely is a $20-50k item today. If you bought an $8500 copy >>> of Amazing Fantasy 15 in 2005, it is likely $100k today.maybe more come to >>> think of it. >>> >>> I wish all the way down to my toes that posters were a good investment, >>> but unless you buy them at low wholesale rates, like dealers do, there is >>> literally no-investment and I think that every dealer, including the one >>> who posted that ridiculous email, knows the truth of this. >>> >>> movie posters as investment.. what a laugh >>> >>> >>> "On 10/18/2023 5:47 AM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: >>> >>> People keep saying to me "Bruce, what is something I can invest in that >>> has not gone sky high in recent years?". Can I self-servingly suggest >>> vintage movie paper? >>> >>> It might SEEM like I am saying this because that is my livelihood, but >>> it is 100% true that a LOT of vintage movie posters sell for the same or >>> similar prices that they did 20 or more years ago, including both great >>> ones and lesser ones! >>> >>> This is something you can't say about just about ANYTHING else, from >>> real estate to the stock market to groceries to oil, to almost EVERY other >>> kind of collectible! >>> >>> While many of the best examples of comic books or baseball cards or so >>> many other collectibles are "out of sight" to an average person, you CAN >>> still buy a wonderful movie poster for a surprisingly reasonable price! >>> >>> Want proof? 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